[bots]

Statements along the lines of this or that hm won't win are just silly at this stage

Any hm can win, everyone laughed at me when I said Pav could win a few weeks ago, not so many are laughing now - just saying

[Denver]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Can't see many Helen fans using their dole money to mass vote though.

I find this rude and a personal attack on forumers which is against the rules

[Denver]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Statements along the lines of this or that hm won't win are just silly at this stage

Any hm can win, everyone laughed at me when I said Pav could win a few weeks ago, not so many are laughing now - just saying

I think i was the only ome that agreed

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Can't see many Helen fans using their dole money to mass vote though.

That is incredibly rude

[serensilver]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Can't see many Helen fans using their dole money to mass vote though.

I have never claimed dole and have worked all my life

[Achilles]

I think it is best to look at the Most Popular Bets pie chart on Oddschecker.

At the moment it reads

25% Ashleigh
16% Mark
16% Winston
14% Christopher
13% Chris

If Helen makes it into that top 5 before Friday live final, then there is a strong chance of her finishing high up, even winning.
If you take out Mark and Winston, the % of bets placed reflects the order of online polls.

Last Friday Winston was 5th in the morning and by the start of the show, he had jumped to 2nd behind Mark in the most popular bets placed for next eviction. That is why it was not a shock that he was evicted.

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Achilles

I think it is best to look at the Most Popular Bets pie chart on Oddschecker.

At the moment it reads

25% Ashleigh
16% Mark
16% Winston
14% Christopher
13% Chris

If Helen makes it into that top 5 before Friday live final, then there is a strong chance of her finishing high up, even winning.
If you take out Mark and Winston, the % of bets placed reflects the order of online polls.

Last Friday Winston was 5th in the morning and by the start of the show, he had jumped to 2nd behind Mark in the most popular bets placed for next eviction. That is why it was not a shock that he was evicted.

you do realise that betting doesnt make someone win?

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by adamski94

you do realise that betting doesnt make someone win?

It's does people will vote to protect their winnings.

If ashleigh does has 25% of all bets placed then, she is well place to win.

If lots of people place a large amount of bets on helen then she might sneak a win.

[Achilles]

Originally Posted by adamski94

you do realise that betting doesnt make someone win?

It won't be 100% accurate all the time, but combining polls with bets being placed can give a fairly good estimate.
People are not always voting for the person they bet money on, but a fairly significant % of them are just as a fairly significant % of those voting on polls are voting for that person.

I am saying that if Helen appears on that top 5, her chances of finishing high increase.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

It's does people will vote to protect their winnings.

If ashleigh does has 25% of all bets placed then, she is well place to win.

If lots of people place a large amount of bets on helen then she might sneak a win.

25% of bets? are you joking ? she's the only one drifting

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by TheElusiveChanteuse

Can't see many Helen fans using their dole money to mass vote though.

Dont insult fans it is not allowed and its also very rude

[MB.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

25% of bets? are you joking ? she's the only one drifting

Of course she isn't the only one drifting. Have you not seen Chris' odds?

[MB.]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Dont insult fans it is not allowed and its also very rude

Better start practicing what you preach then, Chuff

[VanessaFeltz.]

Ashleigh: 8/13
Christopher: 9/4
Helen: 7

Helen stuck :/

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

25% of bets? are you joking ? she's the only one drifting

Ashleigh has a big online fan base, you free to dislike her and I think she shouldn't win as well, but she is popular there is not point denial that fact.

There is large amount of money on her winning, so people will vote to collect their winnings, only a really bad edit can stop ashleigh now.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

Ashleigh has a big online fans, you free to dislike her and I think she shouldn't win as well, but she is popular there is not point denial that fact.

There is large amount of money on her winning, so people will vote to collect their winnings, only a really bad edit can stop ashleigh now.

But will the vote ? and PLEASE don't say "Oh yes, they will all vote" as you or I do not know who will vote, but its not hard to work out if someones gone to the trouble to bet ,they will also vote, a hell of a lot of money has gone on Helen to bring her in from 25-1 yesterday to 6-1 in some places today ,and I'm talking a LOT of money

[waylander1973]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But will the vote ? and PLEASE don't say "Oh yes, they will all vote" as you or I do not know who will vote, but its not hard to work out if someones gone to the trouble to bet ,they will also vote, a hell of a lot of money has gone on Helen to bring her in from 25-1 yesterday to 6-1 in some places today ,and I'm talking a LOT of money

Ashleigh odds a few weeks ago were like 9/1, To answer your point well I bet on a mark and winston togo last week and I did vote quite bit to make sure I got my money back with 12/1 odds I got. I certain those with money on a housemate to win will vote as well, I find hard to believe if someone put money on a housemate to win will not vote at this stage in the game.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

I was his biggest fan, but his fawning of Ashleigh has turned me off him

I dont see any fawning tbh I see a good friendship, say it was Ash or some younger good looking fellow, would you still say the same thing? He has been very respectful and aware of the fact that she has a bf. Bear in mind it was Asheigh who sought out his friendship after Danielle left, they have both been there for each other. Had he made an older HM his buddy would it have been different?







CHRIS to win...

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jules2

I dont see any fawning tbh I see a good friendship, say it was Ash or some younger good looking fellow, would you still say the same thing? He has been very respectful and aware of the fact that she has a bf. Bear in mind it was Asheigh who sought out his friendship after Danielle left, they have both been there for each other. Had he made an older HM his buddy would it have been different?







CHRIS to win...

its a one sided friendship she's used him as she did Dani,Toya

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

But will the vote ? and PLEASE don't say "Oh yes, they will all vote" as you or I do not know who will vote, but its not hard to work out if someones gone to the trouble to bet ,they will also vote, a hell of a lot of money has gone on Helen to bring her in from 25-1 yesterday to 6-1 in some places today ,and I'm talking a LOT of money

Imo it is anyones game at the moment, someone put 1,000 bet on Helen yesterday but we have to remember that those who have put bets on the others will also try and make sure that they get their rewards. Chris had been top of the shop for a long time so those who put their money in then and now will want to use the telephone as well. This is what will count at the end of the day as we know....it is all about the lolly.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Imo it is anyones game at the moment, someone put 1,000 bet on Helen yesterday but we have to remember that those who have put bets on the others will also try and make sure that they get their rewards. Chris had been top of the shop for a long time so those who put their money in then and now will want to use the telephone as well. This is what will count at the end of the day as we know....it is all about the lolly.

My hubby works in a bookies, it takes a LOT more than £1000 to change the odds that much

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

its a one sided friendship she's used him as she did Dani,Toya

I do wonder if I am honest and am waiting to see what will happen this week, but, if that is the case she has totally encouraged the friendship. He hasnt made moves on her other than to say that he values her friendship and that he would have been lost without it. There is nothing like a good friendship so long as loyalty is in play. I do have a feeling that he has been made a scapegoat for quite a few.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

My hubby works in a bookies, it takes a LOT more than £1000 to change the odds that much

I was just making a stament of truth tbh, I do not understand the legistics myself but logic tells me that those who have bet over the season, will want to try and make their bets valid. Thus the three who were in the top will have had a lot of bets already on them enabling them to stay at the top. Thus, hopefully, many telephone votes. Only my theories. It is a funny old thing this betting lark, I keep an eye on Oddschecker but have seen many go astray.

Not a betting person myself though.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by waylander1973

Ashleigh odds a few weeks ago were like 9/1, To answer your point well I bet on a mark and winston togo last week and I did vote quite bit to make sure I got my money back with 12/1 odds I got. I certain those with money on a housemate to win will vote as well, I find hard to believe if someone put money on a housemate to win will not vote at this stage in the game.

Ah this is what I am trying to say but you have said it so much better.

[FlippingEck]

Originally Posted by Jules2

I was just making a stament of truth tbh, I do not understand the legistics myself but logic tells me that those who have bet over the season, will want to try and make their bets valid. Thus the three who were in the top will have had a lot of bets already on them enabling them to stay at the top. Thus, hopefully, many telephone votes. Only my theories. It is a funny old thing this betting lark, I keep an eye on Oddschecker but have seen many go astray.

Not a betting person myself though.

Surely it depends on how much they stand to win though... the cost of the votes outweigh the benefits of what they are likely to win..
I don't understand the betting stuff myself.. but it seems many on here do?