[Robodog]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

Spot on.

Helen gets called a bully because she shouts.

Ashleigh doesn't shout but for her 'evil plan' she deliberately excluded Helen and secretly manipulated the other girls to nominate Ash - for the sole reason of upsetting Helen. This exclusion and manipulation and intention to cause harm to a HM can also be seen as bullying.

But because she didn't 'shout' - no one calls it that.

I don't think either of them are bullies by the way - but both can be bitches.

Helen is a foreground bitch with self reflection and a sense of humour about herself.

Ashleigh is a background bitch with no self reflection and no sense of humour about herself.

Give me Helen over Ashleigh any day.

[MrWong]

Originally Posted by Robodog

Spot on.

Helen gets called a bully because she shouts.

Ashleigh doesn't shout but for her 'evil plan' she deliberately excluded Helen and secretly manipulated the other girls to nominate Ash - for the sole reason of upsetting Helen. This exclusion and manipulation and intention to cause harm to a HM can also be seen as bullying.

But because she didn't 'shout' - no one calls it that.

I don't think either of them are bullies by the way - but both can be bitches.

Helen is a foreground bitch with self reflection and a sense of humour about herself.

Ashleigh is a background bitch with no self reflection and no sense of humour about herself.

Give me Helen over Ashleigh any day.

Yeah she got her warnings because she shouts.

Not because she sidelines people, calls them vile names, jabs her finger in faces.

She brings the whole house down - The words of her mates (and others) when she was locked in the morgue.

[Ellen]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

[Beso]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

and I could point out many more that ALL the hm have done to Helen including Ashleigh. Its easy to focus on the loud and aggressive one, without seeing the true picture

go on then!