[Jack_]

Helen was out of order with Matthew in the argument in the house.

Matthew was however irrelevant, mostly dull and is vastly overrated. Helen completely ****s all over him in the housemate stakes.

Matthew shouldn't have made comments about Helen, he should just get over it and move on with his life.

Ash shouldn't have started an argument with him unnecessarily though however. Helen won, why does he need to care about Matthew's opinion?

That is all.

[Amy Jade]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

It takes two to tango after all

She was in the house so no, he has been slagging her off for weeks when she had no chance to reply until now but I am sure she is too busy celebrating to take too much notice of him being almost as bitter as the anti Helen movement at her win.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Josy

Matthew is so bitter

Yes a Fool he is

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Who Is She?

http://metro.co.uk/2014/08/16/big-br...helen-4835269/

Good for Ash,proves what a good friend he is to her,Mathew is very bitter ,he needs to move on

[Shaun]

jack pretty much summed it up

[JoshBB]

How bitter. It's a celebration party and he acts like a dick. Lost a lot of respect for him.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by StupidHoe

What facts have been missed?

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

[Scream]

Really gone off Matthew since he was evicted. Honestly, he's ruined it for himself. He's tried to fool the public into thinking he's entertaining while on the BBBOTS panel by saying 'they're irrelevant' after every question.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

How bitter. It's a celebration party and he acts like a dick. Lost a lot of respect for him.

Ash was the one saying he would confront him?

[flamingGalah!]

I don't think Matthew is bitter, he's just saying it "how it is", a trait all you Helen fans seem to love about her...

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Ash was the one saying he would confront him?

Too right! Very sour to be slagging someone off at a party, a time of fun. They aren't in the Big Brother house anymore and he needs to remember that.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Too right! Very sour to be slagging someone off at a party, a time of fun. They aren't in the Big Brother house anymore and he needs to remember that.

Matthew was saying all of it at the final and on BOTS Ash was saying that he was going to confront him

[spot_on]

No surprise here, Ash is Helen's lackey.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by spot_on

No surprise here, Ash is Helen's lackey.

And Matthew is Toya's bitch. Toya is Matthew's fag hag.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

And Matthew is Toya's bitch. Toya is Matthew's fag hag.

Matthew is straight

[Macie Lightfoot]

Cool two flops fighting about another flop.

Great series y'all.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Petemitch

Matthew is straight

That's what his boyfriend said.

[Daniel.]

Matthew is awful in every single way.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

That's what his boyfriend said.

Bet you feel good picking on Matthews insecurities

[BigBrotherfan4ever]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Some Ash and Helen fans are acting like Matthew slagging them off is totally unwarranted, as if they didn't treat him (and others) like ****.

In answer to your question of "Why should he sit by and watch a bitter little tosser slag his friend off?". Frankly, that "bitter little tosser" has a very valid reason to "slag his friend off".

On the subject of slagging people off, didn't Helen and Ash sit there mocking "the slug's elephant ears" in the early weeks? So, Ash is so furious that his precious friend is being slagged off by someone she tried to physically intimidate, yet he has no problem with the cruel tirades Helen goes off on for no reason at all, he's even happy to join in?

Ash has even had the gall to be all offended and angry by Jale's comments since she's left. So, he can mock her as "the slug", but she has to adore him?

That's my issue with this whole thing. Helen and Ash have been horrible, they have no right whatsoever to act morally superior when they're the ones being slagged off.

I'm not saying Matthew's a saint by the way, but Ash's "one rule for us, one rule for them" attitude is repulsive. His "I don't like nastiness and bitching" act doesn't work with me, I actually remember the first few weeks. He has no problem with it, he just doesn't like he and his friends being on the other end of it, even if they've provoked it.

great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by LukeB

nope because matthew did not start the argument he just slagged helen off who helen can defend herself, ash should let him have his opinions and have a good time, im not even a matthew fan

So if someone was slagging your friend off, would you do nothing?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by BigBrotherfan4ever

great post 100% agree, they way Helen spoke to Matthew was disgusting.

And the way he's spoke about her is equally disgusting,trouble is he is carrying his bitterness on,and good on Ash,it's what any true friend would do.

[daniel-lewis-1985]

The worst thing is the after party was held at Stevens house lol.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by daniel-lewis-1985

The worst thing is the after party was held at Stevens house lol.

Really?

If Steven is a regular on BOTS

[Cal.]

To be fair Matthew and Toya had been bitching and jeering when Helen walked out of the house (well Matthew bitching to Toya)