[Jay.]

Originally Posted by the truth

sorry but thats naive nonsense. were a small island. when NET immigration is over 500,000 a year. thats 5 million people more arriving than leaving a decade. the question is can our system cope, can we afford it and should there be tougher qualifications to get these free handouts which run to tens of billions, you and I have to pay national isnurance for years, shouldnt the immigrants have to pay insurance too? otherwise arent we being discriminated against? as the rules are easier for immigrants than for people who have paid in for years and decades

old people are not treated properly in hospitals, the first thing they say to you is, if his /her heart stops we cant bring him/her back....if the old person is significantly ill, they soon pressurise you and the family to let the person die. this is within minutes of arriving. been there worn the t shirt, the nhs is a disaster. why? well over population doesnt help, people not paying into the system with contributions doesnt help, paying billions in benefits doesnt help....its a mass inefficient mess.

same rules for all, have some kind of tighter green card scheme as they do in almost every other country, which demands each arrival has at least some skills to add to our country and learn english first. change the system so people have got to pay in before getting benefits. yes you can have some allowance for refugees and so on. but not a mass free for all...we have millions of illegal immigrants with no trace of who they are or where they are.........the whole rotherham abuse of 1400 kids cover up, was entirely pakistani people. everyone was too scared to talk about it. different people and countries, regions, cultures do have different ways of life and different patterns of behaviour and crimes. all groups are NOT all the same. there are patterns and wed be idots to ignore it. this is why this cover up and this evil abuse has gone on unpunished for 20 years

lets be fair, lets get balance and common sense and rules, lets put a value on what it means to be a british citizen , lets re assert our values and move forward from there

I did not mean illegal immigration. The rest of your post is irrelevant. Especially the part about what it means to be a 'British Citizen' do you not think it is in-humane to not want to help out the others of this world? (As long as it is legal obviously) We are one world, living together.

Because in reality we have a lot of room. There really is no use debating this, just my opinion.