[Jules2]

Originally Posted by jaxie

It isn't the first time either. They did the same thing when Leslie was in the pool that time. It's horrible behaviour and they should be told about it by BB.

I will never forget that pool incident, Leslie saying this is my pool, someone else telling Gary that he had no right to be there and Stephanie telling him to leave her Leslie alone. How did they ever get away with that, there was quite a few around that pool. He was made to feel inadequate when he had already been told that noone liked him.

He should not have been told to go away from the seat, he told someone beforehand that he was going to sit out there. Once again he was made to feel inadequate. Audley bless him, had the right attitude when he told Dee to include Gary and not to let the rest of them make him feel unwanted. Not the exact words but that was what he meant. I hope that Gary realises afterwards what a friend Audley has been to him. Would love to think that Gary takes him to his hometown. All sitting around Dee the queen mama bee as though she needed comforting. Fingers down throat jobby. Edelle is sugar sweet but behind his back or near him she has bitched. The only decent thing she did for him was to let him have his letter.

I would like to think that Lauren stays tomorrow and that it is Ricci and Dee or Edelle. Mind you James would be a thousand times better imo. Dee and James......

[bots]

Originally Posted by Jules2

I will never forget that pool incident, Leslie saying this is my pool, someone else telling Gary that he had no right to be there and Stephanie telling him to leave her Leslie alone. How did they ever get away with that, there was quite a few around that pool. He was made to feel inadequate when he had already been told that noone liked him.

He should not have been told to go away from the seat, he told someone beforehand that he was going to sit out there. Once again he was made to feel inadequate. Audley bless him, had the right attitude when he told Dee to include Gary and not to let the rest of them make him feel unwanted. Not the exact words but that was what he meant. I hope that Gary realises afterwards what a friend Audley has been to him. Would love to think that Gary takes him to his hometown. All sitting around Dee the queen mama bee as though she needed comforting. Fingers down throat jobby. Edelle is sugar sweet but behind his back or near him she has bitched. The only decent thing she did for him was to let him have his letter.

I would like to think that Lauren stays tomorrow and that it is Ricci and Dee or Edelle. Mind you James would be a thousand times better imo. Dee and James......

Spot on

[Pincho Paxton]

Gary couldn't sit near Dee to cater for Dee's obsessive over-reaction. That is how you separate people in a mental home. Civilised people however do not need the extra step of catering for their well being. Civilised people can sit next to each other without a total breakdown. James and Audley shared a dome, and argued in that dome for ages, they did not need to be separated.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Gary couldn't sit near Dee to cater for Dee's obsessive over-reaction. That is how you separate people in a mental home. Civilised people however do not need the extra step of catering for their well being. Civilised people can sit next to each other without arguing. James and Audley shared a dome, and argued in that dome for ages, they did not need to be separated.

I think Dee just needed to calm down, and Gary would have wound her up, Edele was trying to stop another argument, imo.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

I think Dee just needed to calm down, and Gary would have wound her up, Edele was trying to stop another argument, imo.

nonsense , no offence. edele was trying to make herself look good and gary bad and of course joining in the group bulllying against the physically weakest person. the vile coward. she should have asked dee to leave.

[rionablue]

Originally Posted by the truth

nonsense , no offence. edele was trying to make herself look good and gary bad and of course joining in the group bulllying against the physically weakest person. the vile coward. she should have asked dee to leave.

Oh FOR GODS SAKE the truth STOP painting Edele as evil just because she asked Gary not to come into the area that DEE already was in as emotions were still running high and she didn't want EITHER Gary or Dee to start ranting again. You must remember Edele likes both of them. And Edele doesn't have to TRY and make herself look good. All the housemates like her and that in itself is a good thing, even the evicted housemates. She has taken more time with Gary than any of the others and she DOESNT preach to him like James does. I hate Dee with a vengeance and I like Gary but they were both wrong in the argument to some degree. Gary accepted what Edele said and probably knew why she asked him not to come out at that particular time.

If you hate Edele fair enough but for goodness sake come up with good reasons

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by rionablue

Oh FOR GODS SAKE the truth STOP painting Edele as evil just because she asked Gary not to come into the area that DEE already was in as emotions were still running high and she didn't want EITHER Gary or Dee to start ranting again. You must remember Edele likes both of them. And Edele doesn't have to TRY and make herself look good. All the housemates like her and that in itself is a good thing, even the evicted housemates. She has taken more time with Gary than any of the others and she DOESNT preach to him like James does. I hate Dee with a vengeance and I like Gary but they were both wrong in the argument to some degree. Gary accepted what Edele said and probably knew why she asked him not to come out at that particular time.

If you hate Edele fair enough but for goodness sake come up with good reasons

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Pincho Paxton

Gary couldn't sit near Dee to cater for Dee's obsessive over-reaction. That is how you separate people in a mental home. Civilised people however do not need the extra step of catering for their well being. Civilised people can sit next to each other without a total breakdown. James and Audley shared a dome, and argued in that dome for ages, they did not need to be separated.

That is exactly right.

[rubymoo]

I took it as Edele asking Gary not to sit next to Dee as that's where he appeared to be heading.

[Patricia4]

It was awful how Edele spoke to him you cant sit there if I'd of been Gary I would of said stuff you I would of sat and gone where I wanted to.

[the truth]

id love to see the reaction if busey was so petty and told dee she couldnt sit poolside......shed go berserk and threaten violence again and the sheep would support her

[Pincho Paxton]

Originally Posted by the truth

id love to see the reaction if busey was so petty and told dee she couldnt sit poolside......shed go berserk and threaten violence again and the sheep would support her

Good point! If Gary told Dee not to sit by him she would say...

"Gary! I'll sit where I please! Who are you to tell others where they can, and can't sit!"

Almost the exact words.

[lily.]

I think she's about to go berserk anyway.. she's on a slippery slope lol

[Kazanne]

I do think Edele could have gone up to Gary and explained,do they have to belittle him at every opportunity,sometimes it's not what people say but how they say it,she could have done that in a more kinder and subtle way,she was just caring about Dee in that and not Gary.

[Marsh.]

Dee was the one who wanted space so should have been the one to move around the house and avoid people. Not cordon off areas of the house and tell Gary he can't enter them.

If she doesn't want to be near someone then she should move.

[Ultimist]

I think Edele should have kept her mouth shut. I don't hate her, nor am I "against" her for doing it, but it was actually none of her business. If Dee didn't want Gary around, it should have been she herself to say it.

And it did make Edele appear to be taking Dee's side. Otherwise when she saw Gary she could have suggested to Dee, "Maybe we should take this inside for a while." Or she could have simply remained silent and allow Dee to make the decision, or not.

Why did Gary have to be the one inconvenienced when Dee had already had some time out there?

[smudgie]

Most people would know that you give an argument time to settle down, you don't follow somebody about after it.
Gary is either ignorant of socially inept..I go for the for the ignorant option.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by smudgie

Most people would know that you give an argument time to settle down, you don't follow somebody about after it.
Gary is either ignorant of socially inept..I go for the for the ignorant option.

Perhaps he would have liked to sort it out sensibly instead of which to see them sat together would have made him think that they were talking about him and against him which we know they are. Edelle should have kept her nose out of it and let Dee and Gary chat why should he be made the scapegoat all of the time.

[Nell_McCoy]

What part of "DESIGNATED SMOKING AREA" do people not understand? Typical non-smoker selfish attitudes..........throw all the smokers out to some shabby makeshift beer garden in rain. hail and snow.......then come outside on a nice sunny day and yap and gurn about all the outside tables being taken up by the smokers who have sat there all ****ing winter. Dee has shown her true colours and I dislike her, Gary has been badly treated by practically every single housemate BUT don't suggest a smoker who's upset should move from the smoking area. Edele should have kept her nose out she made a bad situation worse. And BTW Dee's weight is irrelevant to the issue.

[Pete.]

Let Edele live