[rusticgal]

...a true wanker to the end. Couldn't even be a gent in defeat.
His interview pushed him to his limit just as Audley had got the better of him so many times in the house.
One bitter and twisted person who can't handle defeat or accept his wrong doing. As Audley said...his humour was always at others expense..Twat.

[Josy]

James has a lot of issues that he should think about getting sorted out. Constantly trying to act the guy that 'doesn't give a ****' well it's clear he does give a **** IMO and the reaction from the crowd definitely made him uneasy, his face turned a shade of beetroot when he realised the crowd were shouting "Bully" during his interview.

[Pincho Paxton]

He has a mental illness called...

...Bollocksforbrains

It's quite rare.

[ThriceShy]

James needs help. And the first step on his recovery will be accepting his sexuality.

[muchadoaboutnothing]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

James needs help. And the first step on his recovery will be accepting his sexuality.

Spot on 100%. James kept referring to Ricci has a goodlooking lad, several times, even telling Lauren that she could do worst. . He touched and squezzed one of Georges nipples in the bedroom, George was furious with him. This was shown as a clip on BOTS but not on HL show. James, on more than one occasion, whipped Georges bottom with a towel , at one stage George pulled his own pants down to show the marks (in the kitchen), James laughed a Georges bottom. And alos in a recent HL show (or maybe it was shown on BOTS) George was on top of Edele (or it could have been Dee) tickling her, then James joined in and you could clearly see him touching Georges bum. I have always had my reservations about James sexuality thoughout this CBB series and it is about time he got in touch with his femine side. As far as I am concerned,James is still in the closet.

[mr rochester]

Originally Posted by muchadoaboutnothing

As far as I am concerned,James is still in the closet.

…and he needs a corset for his vile mouth...

[Ace]

The guys a head case. he needs years of therapy to sort out his non-existent self-esteem.

[jet]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

James needs help. And the first step on his recovery will be accepting his sexuality.

Bollocks. He doesn't need help, most of the Hm's loved him - as does the lovely Ola, who is still with him after 15 years of knowing him. Longevity counts! I think he a cracker bloke and I know if I knew him in RL I'd get him. I don't see a sexuality issue at all.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by jet

Bollocks. He doesn't need help, most of the Hm's loved him - as does the lovely Ola, who is still with him after 15 years of knowing him. Longevity counts! I think he a cracker bloke and I know if I knew him in RL I'd get him. I don't see a sexuality issue at all.

Have you tried specsavers? They are doing 2 for 1 on Ł69 frames at the moment.

[the truth]

and he was exposed for saying the infamous brad pitt of ballroom dancing at which point he was utterly humiliated

[booboomartin]

Originally Posted by rusticgal

...a true wanker to the end. Couldn't even be a gent in defeat.
His interview pushed him to his limit just as Audley had got the better of him so many times in the house.
One bitter and twisted person who can't handle defeat or accept his wrong doing. As Audley said...his humour was always at others expense..Twat.

true.

[Brooklyn]

Horrible man.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Have you tried specsavers? They are doing 2 for 1 on Ł69 frames at the moment.

..although I was a Gary fan most definitely and didn't particularly like James..thought he was arrogant/pompous and self righteous etc...this really for me is what has spoilt it all somewhat this year..disagreeing on a housemate, being completely opposed in opinions is something that has always been with BB and makes it interesting but insulting and being rude to members for those opinions is completely unnecessary and it's happened all too often in both BBs this year..and it's sad to see so many people who have stopped posting because of it because they're opinions whether agreed with or not are equally as interesting as anyone else's....

[Raphael]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..although I was a Gary fan most definitely and didn't particularly like James..thought he was arrogant/pompous and self righteous etc...this really for me is what has spoilt it all somewhat this year..disagreeing on a housemate, being completely opposed in opinions is something that has always been with BB and makes it interesting but insulting and being rude to members for those opinions is completely unnecessary and it's happened all too often in both BBs this year..and it's sad to see so many people who have stopped posting because of it because they're opinions whether agreed with or not are equally as interesting as anyone else's....

Yes, everyone has different opinions, to a lot of people it's how you go about putting it across. It's all well and good saying "I'm honest" but if you are pompous, condescending, obnoxious and arrogant with that view it's not going to sit well, especially when it is constant. To me he comes across this way to make himself feel better, perhaps to temporarily diminish his own insecurities and doubt which makes him an even worse personality.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by Raphael

Yes, everyone has different opinions, to a lot of people it's how you go about putting it across. It's all well and good saying "I'm honest" but if you are pompous, condescending, obnoxious and arrogant with that view it's not going to sit well, especially when it is constant. To me he comes across this way to make himself feel better, perhaps to temporarily diminish his own insecurities and doubt which makes him an even worse personality.

..yeah I agree that I think his behaviour masks many insecurities..whether they be deep rooted ones or to do with his loss of place on Strictly and maybe a 'crisis' in his life, I really don't know but I do hope he resolves whatever his 'demons are'..I.and no, it's never going to sit well with the public to behave as he has done because it's only behaviour and the effect of it that we really mostly look at and no matter how much empathy or understanding we try to have, the results of that behaviour to the people around him are the same..interestingly in this case though I don't think Gary or Audley were that particularly effected anywhere near in a way that they may have been because they're both in such a good place and so much 'secure' within themselves...I do think that 'failing' to get a reaction not just for James but for some other housemates as well just made them completely frustrated and maybe 'worse'..?...because they're not in the place that Audley and Gary are and so would like to be...because they can't be and can't 'reach it' they sneered, you know..?...

[delta]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Have you tried specsavers? They are doing 2 for 1 on Ł69 frames at the moment.

No use.



There are non so blind as those that cannot see.



It really says as much about the poster as it does about Bully Elliot.

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

Have you tried specsavers? They are doing 2 for 1 on Ł69 frames at the moment.

Why do you say that he has a sexuality issue? I'm genuinely intrigued.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by delta

No use.



There are non so blind as those that cannot see.


It really says as much about the poster as it does about Bully Elliot.

..as those that do not agree..?..no it really does not say anything about them at all other than that they have genuine interest in a housemate's behaviour...and thoughts/opinions about it...

[delta]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..as those that do not agree..?..no it really does not say anything about them at all other than that they have genuine interest in a housemate's behaviour...and thoughts/opinions about it...

It clearly says as much if not more about the poster if they champion such a bad role model and pass off his may flaws as if it was something to be cherished or even worse glaze over them as it they didn't exist.


I didn't see one endearing quality in there from him. Self absorbed- show off - with so many bad personality traits and examples of what is not good in our society. As Audley said, if you have to try and get a laugh at an other person's expense then there is something wrong with you. You get people to laugh with you not to get other people to laugh or poke fun at another individual to heighten your profile or to big yourself up.

For 36 years old he is, very immature, very insecure. He has deep seated issues. He's a bully. What you saw is what you got, that his game of life, the way he's always conducted himself and he never took the time whilst in there to reflect and think. Hey, you know what, I can do this a different way, I can take on board what those that dare confront me and tell me what my flaws are, I can improve. Nah, he was his belligerent self to right to the bitter end.


That's another thing, he actually spoiled the program. I didn't enjoy watching him and there were people who were running scared of him and found it easier to go with the bullying rather than stand up against it. Why do you think Audley came second? Why do you think Gary won? Yes, he was entertaining and which ever way they tried to play him he would have still won. But if they had been nice to him it would have reflected much better on them as a group. They made their choice and I hope most of 'em never work again. Truly shameful behavior.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by delta

It clearly says as much if not more about the poster if they champion such a bad role model and pass off his may flaws as if it was something to be cherished or even worse glaze over them as it they didn't exist.


I didn't see one endearing quality in there from him. Self absorbed- show off - with so many bad personality traits and examples of what is not good in our society. As Audley said, if you have to try and get a laugh at an other person's expense then there is something wrong with you. You get people to laugh with you not to get other people to laugh or poke fun at another individual to heighten your profile or to big yourself up.

For 36 years old he is, very immature, very insecure. He has deep seated issues. He's a bully. What you saw is what you got, that his game of life, the way he's always conducted himself and he never took the time whilst in there to reflect and think. Hey, you know what, I can do this a different way, I can take on board what those that dare confront me and tell me what my flaws are, I can improve. Nah, he was his belligerent self to right to the bitter end.


That's another thing, he actually spoiled the program. I didn't enjoy watching him and there were people who were running scared of him and found it easier to go with the bullying rather than stand up against it. Why do you think Audley came second? Why do you think Gary won? Yes, he was entertaining and which ever way they tried to play him he would have still won. But if they had been nice to him it would have reflected much better on them as a group. They made their choice and I hope most of 'em never work again. Truly shameful behavior.

..it still doesn't say anything about the poster though and gives no one the right to comment on them...there are lots of reasons why people 'support' housemates or even like or are interested in them...whether they see 'beyond' what is surface etc and whether that intrigues them or gives them any empathy etc...in terms of 'housemates' we all view differently what we see in terms of 'entertainment' and in terms of what we feel those housemates's character are and how we view those characters also depends on a lot of individual things and personal life experiences and people we know..or can do, if that's your thought process...and none of that can and should ever be judged by another forum member because it really is all very subjective....there are many people who failed to see the 'value' as a person of the civilian BB winner and the fact that they also 'entertained' at the expense of others..much more so than James in my own opinion...my opinion though was not of the 'majority' opinion of public and voters...so whose opinion was 'right'..?..no ones..not the majority/not the minority..just differing opinions and for different reasons....


..anyway, my opinion still stands...posters and members post their opinions and thoughts on housemates who have put themselves up to be 'judged' so that's what we all do and enjoy doing and always have done...I find it very sad personally that I have seen so many interesting members being 'put off' from posting their thoughts on housemates because of personal comments to themselves for doing so...I don't know why this has been allowed or seen to be allowed so frequently, that saddens me as well but as it has, then my opinion is obviously here in the 'minority' as well ....

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Josy

James has a lot of issues that he should think about getting sorted out. Constantly trying to act the guy that 'doesn't give a ****' well it's clear he does give a **** IMO and the reaction from the crowd definitely made him uneasy, his face turned a shade of beetroot when he realised the crowd were shouting "Bully" during his interview.

All series hate aside I think he needs counselling or psychiatric help.

[Kazanne]

He's a vile,arrogant,hypocritical man who's in love with himself and was truly gutted he got it so wrong last night,all his bravado was so transparent,horrible,horrible man,a tosser who was lucky to come third,ungrarcious in defeat,my most disliked housemate ever other than John James.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it still doesn't say anything about the poster though and gives no one the right to comment on them...there are lots of reasons why people 'support' housemates or even like or are interested in them...whether they see 'beyond' what is surface etc and whether that intrigues them or gives them any empathy etc...in terms of 'housemates' we all view differently what we see in terms of 'entertainment' and in terms of what we feel those housemates's character are and how we view those characters also depends on a lot of individual things and personal life experiences and people we know..or can do, if that's your thought process...and none of that can and should ever be judged by another forum member because it really is all very subjective....there are many people who failed to see the 'value' as a person of the civilian BB winner and the fact that they also 'entertained' at the expense of others..much more so than James in my own opinion...my opinion though was not of the 'majority' opinion of public and voters...so whose opinion was 'right'..?..no ones..not the majority/not the minority..just differing opinions and for different reasons....


..anyway, my opinion still stands...posters and members post their opinions and thoughts on housemates who have put themselves up to be 'judged' so that's what we all do and enjoy doing and always have done...I find it very sad personally that I have seen so many interesting members being 'put off' from posting their thoughts on housemates because of personal comments to themselves for doing so...I don't know why this has been allowed or seen to be allowed so frequently, that saddens me as well but as it has, then my opinion is obviously here in the 'minority' as well ....

Great posts Ammi and I totally get what you are saying but I kind of understand why some people find it hard to get along on the forum. It is hard not to get heated if you find a certain behaviour cruel and abhorrant and someone tries to justify it. It can be hard to understand how someone can defend that. I can understand someone liking a villian and being entertained to an extent by their bad behaviour but justifying that behaviour at someone else's expense is something quite different. Gary and Audley both took everything on the chin but that doesn't make what they received right or fair.
I think people accept opposing views better when they dont try to push the opposing as right. So I can kind of see why some people don't get along in opposition.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by jaxie

Great posts Ammi and I totally get what you are saying but I kind of understand why some people find it hard to get along on the forum. It is hard not to get heated if you find a certain behaviour cruel and abhorrant and someone tries to justify it. It can be hard to understand how someone can defend that. I can understand someone liking a villian and being entertained to an extent by their bad behaviour but justifying that behaviour at someone else's expense is something quite different. Gary and Audley both took everything on the chin but that doesn't make what they received right or fair.
I think people accept opposing views better when they dont try to push the opposing as right. So I can kind of see why some people don't get along in opposition.

..I do understand what you're saying Jaxie and it's not that it's not understandable why fans become 'passionate' or can do but that is never necessary to extend to someone else posting an opposing or differing opinion because after all, no matter how much we may disagree or not see anything 'likeable' in that housemate at all etc...we need that balance to the forum and we need those differing opinions otherwise how boring it would become if we all just agreed with each other so personal insults that make people hesitant or reluctant to post etc is never a good thing for anyone and certainly not the forum...,.but I think also, for me when I like a housemate, it often is for the 'finer' qualities they have such as Gary and Audley have...and obviously for many other fans as well..?...that's what we have all praised with our 'chosen ones'....throughout....and we have criticised the housemates who have been quite intolerant/insulting and offensive etc to them..?...and there we are behaving in a not too dissimilar way on the forum than the people we have no admiration for..?...hmmmm....just really not great tbh for any of us who want to debate and discuss and give our thoughts to other members who may not agree but are nonetheless what keep the forum and BB interesting and ticking along...balance of views etc...without being open to insults...


..anyway, I have stuff to do so I'll bow out of the thread now...

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by delta

It clearly says as much if not more about the poster if they champion such a bad role model and pass off his may flaws as if it was something to be cherished or even worse glaze over them as it they didn't exist.


I didn't see one endearing quality in there from him. Self absorbed- show off - with so many bad personality traits and examples of what is not good in our society. As Audley said, if you have to try and get a laugh at an other person's expense then there is something wrong with you. You get people to laugh with you not to get other people to laugh or poke fun at another individual to heighten your profile or to big yourself up.

For 36 years old he is, very immature, very insecure. He has deep seated issues. He's a bully. What you saw is what you got, that his game of life, the way he's always conducted himself and he never took the time whilst in there to reflect and think. Hey, you know what, I can do this a different way, I can take on board what those that dare confront me and tell me what my flaws are, I can improve. Nah, he was his belligerent self to right to the bitter end.


That's another thing, he actually spoiled the program. I didn't enjoy watching him and there were people who were running scared of him and found it easier to go with the bullying rather than stand up against it. Why do you think Audley came second? Why do you think Gary won? Yes, he was entertaining and which ever way they tried to play him he would have still won. But if they had been nice to him it would have reflected much better on them as a group. They made their choice and I hope most of 'em never work again. Truly shameful behavior.

Great post