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Old 11-10-2014, 10:17 AM #26
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Well, going on the brief information in that article, the crowd were alerted by a woman's screams... they followed the screams and found this man "in an alley pinning the women to a wall" (I'm paraphrasing, despite the quotation marks.) I'm sure the crowd didn't pick this man at random and even though I'm a great advocate of a fair trial, preferably by jury, the disgusting, haunting reports of rape that I've read from India makes a part of me think, thank goodness rape is finally being taken seriously instead of being tolerated because women aren't worth as much as men. I would be interested to see more about this case though.

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I can't help but feel that there could be a chance this lad didn't do anything or might not have even been going to rape her.

When you have mob justice like this it's so easy to accuse somebody of doing something without due process and with enough clout behind you accidents can happen.

Humans are fallible to lying and making mistakes.

Didn't they actually catch him doing it though?
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even if he did do it/was attempting it @ yall applauding him being castrated
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even if he did do it/was attempting it @ yall applauding him being castrated
Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
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Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.



And as you mentioned, the way things were going in that country, a message needed to be sent.
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Frankly Scott, if I caught someone raping or attempting to rape a young girl, I'd cut his genitals off myself.
And if you're considering a career change, I hear there are people who will pay good money to see that sort of thing...
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Sick.

No body should have that happen to them, isn't this why laws exist? So people can be held accountable against them and punished accordingly?
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Sick.

No body should have that happen to them, isn't this why laws exist? So people can be held accountable against them and punished accordingly?
The thousands of female rape victims in India who have been ignored and even punished for it are probably asking the same question.
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Didn't they actually catch him doing it though?
According to the article he had pinned the girl against a wall.

Now I'm not saying he wouldn't have been going to rape her cos he probably would but unless Tom Cruise and pre-crime had it all worked out before hand then I don't know how they could be 100% sure.

Now if the article could explain a little more about the circumstances of his discovery, was he trying to forcibly tear her clothing, gag her mouth? Or was he trying to get at her belongings? It's a bit vague.

On the subject of mob retribution though which I thought this thread was about I still believe it is open to massive abuse. Don't like someone? Why not accuse them of apostasy and have them hung?
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I agree with Livia

Its tough justice but its more justice then the woman would get with the system in India, at least now he will never get a chance to do it to someone else again, sounds like a better end game then him going free which would likely happen
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Rape..barbaric violation.

Castration..barbaric violation.

The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
Agreed.
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..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
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If he had hurt a family member not sure I would have felt sorry for him.
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Rape..barbaric violation.

Castration..barbaric violation.

The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
Yep
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What the hell? He might not even be guilty. Imagine that - being accused of rape and then having your genitals hacked off..
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..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
Don't know about that, I'd say a lot of woman would much prefer mob rule then the laws they have obide by over there, I don't see a human being emotionally reacting to something he has witnessed and reacting that way on par with a child rapist tbf i don't know how people can even think that, the circumstances are totally different
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..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
I expect we all remember when that young woman was brutally raped on a bus and received internal injuries from being assaulted with iron bars - injuries so bad that she died of those injuries. The men responsible for that crime expected to walk away and they probably would have, had it not been for Indian people's outrage at the inertia of the police and the fact that they took to the streets in protest which brought the incident to the attention of the world. Poor people in India are not served by the police, they are not considered worthy, and poor women even less worthy than poor men. And if that's changing, it's changing slowly... glacially slowly.

I don't agree with mob rule, but if the law isn't working, if people are not getting justice, then something will always snap. And if I'm going to feel compassion for someone, it's probably not going to be for the man who was dragged off a young women in an alley, but for the countless women who have lived through the brutal degradation of rape and gang rape, and the countless women who have died as a consequence of it without ever having the hope that justice will prevail.
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I've seen pics of women raped and swinging from trees.. strange fruit.
If the loss of a couple of plums is enough of a deterrent to stop that happening then
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Indian fathers marry off their children as young as five years of age!
they are no better than savages. we live in a sick world!.
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The crowd are no better than the rapist.
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I wonder how many other men in that angry mob are also rapists.
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Rape..barbaric violation.

Castration..barbaric violation.

The mob are as bad as a rapist...and this man was not a proven rapist.
The 2 things are not equivalent because the rapist was attacking an innocent victim, but the angry mob was attacking a guilty man.

hurting someone who is innocent is worse than attacking a guilty person in retribution.
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..it's totally sickening and wrong, it's not justice at all, it's just mutilation and makes them equally as bad as the 'guilty' if he was guilty ...but that wasn't for them to decide or to decide what his 'sentence' would be.....even if it's a country with very flawed laws, they're the only laws they have..without law there would only be chaos and mob rule and if the mob 'decide' then that will only make the situation far worse than it is already...two wrongs will never ever be right ....
Good post... Couldn't agree more




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