[waterhog]

if they are a party we can vote for they need a platform - if you are for them or against them its called democracy.

[arista]

Originally Posted by waterhog

if they are a party we can vote for they need a platform - if you are for them or against them its called democracy.

No the Leader of Labour
must do this on his own.


He represents there fecked up party


[Labour MP Graham Stringer says Miliband's team is 'hopeless']

[Ed Miliband isn’t the first Labour leader to turn on the radio
to hear himself being denounced by the Labour MP Graham Stringer,
but that doesn’t mean that he will be happy about the experience.
Stringer was at it again on the Today programme this morning.]

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...tics-live-blog

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by waterhog

if they are a party we can vote for they need a platform - if you are for them or against them its called democracy.

I agree with you, I would much prefer to have it where we talk about a Labour or Conservative or otther elected 'Party' govt overall as to elections.
No one really bothered it seems how Leaders looked or talked in the far past and you got a Conservative Govt or a Labour Govt.

We all,as voters, do not vote for only the party leaders,unless we vote in their own constituencies.
A Party forms the policies and it is a Party election we should be concentrating on.
We put a cross against the Party candidate, not just vote for a ledaer of a party.

However, we are into this silly media,camera nonsense as to how the leaders look,talk,walk and eat.
That is an insult to democracy completely and why so many voters are turned off by politics too,in my opinion.

We are not electing a President,we are electing a Party to Govt. and it can often be the case that in reality a PM has in fact little power depending on the views of his party overall, such as this PM for instance.

Having said that, Leaders debates are fine by me, I am pleased that Nigel Farage will get a platform despite my totally disagreeing with near all his policies.
I do however think the Greens with elected Councillors,an MP and also MEPs elected should also have a share of the UK parties platform too.

Quite frankly, I would prefer no Leaders debates at all,I think what is needed is a re-run of the 2010 election, showing the hypocrisy of and the way the Lib Dems virtually misled the voters with their promises.
Showing the Conservatives too with all their 'vital' targets and then showing the total failure of near all of them over the years and also David Cameron's misleading the voters as to the NHS re-organisation too.

The main problem for me,in the Leaders debates, is the audience,how they are selected and what questions are asked.
It shouldn't be about who performs the best but who has the right and more to the point fair polices for all.
Sadly, the last debates got bogged down with issues over the heads of some voters and all for the sake of the right questions being asked.

The leaders debates need to be, as to content, contolled by the electorate and not the media otherwise all we will get is another farcical showing rather than seeing the 'real' personality and thinking of the Party leaders.

One big act,with little in the way as to anything really genuine being seen and heard in other words.