[billy123]

Originally Posted by Livia

Bob, every thread that has anything to do with God and religion ends the same way. Please don't try to pretend your post was a reaction to what I said. You probably would have posted it anyway despite the fact this is supposed to be 'serious debates'. People who believe in God are always ridiculed on here, but any time someone bites back, it's condescending.

I have yet to see a serious religious person on this forum ridicule and try to belittle atheists. It's just a shame that doesn't work in reverse.

You entered the thread with the default standpoint of your point of view being superior to anybody else's that has shown the audacity to not be religious and that to not be religious is somehow offensive and inferior. I have never passed judgement on anybodys religion nor have i ever ridiculed anybody for their beliefs but it pisses me off when anybody of any religion jumps on the superiority train or even (as the opening post in this thread suggested before it was edited) trys to suggest their standpoint is in any way better than anybody elses.
The victim standpoint is just low if you are going to jump on the this is always the way they react train then expect to get picked up on it.


edit: Damn this is a crap post but yes Livia you annoyed me

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You entered the thread with the default standpoint of your point of view being superior to anybody else's that has shown the audacity to not be religious and that to not be religious is somehow offensive and inferior. I have never passed judgement on anybodys religion nor have i ever ridiculed anybody for their beliefs but it pisses me off when anybody of any religion jumps on the superiority train or even (as the opening post in this thread suggested before it was edited) trys to suggest their standpoint is in any way better than anybody elses.
The victim standpoint is just low if you are going to jump on the this is always the way they react train then expect to get picked up on it.

edit: Damn this is a crap post but yes Livia you annoyed me

????????????????????????? And how did you deduce that from me stating that in my opinion most atheists ask a question of people of faith, then refuse to listen to, or accept the answer, usually through bigotry. No I did not specifically use the words; "In my opinion" but I expected that this much would be clear based on the fact it is me posting.

I edited that line out purely because I am a reasonable person, didn't realise that it could be misconstrued, and did not mean to cause unnecessary offence which was not my intention.

I don't know you or how many posts on these various 'religious' threads you have actually read, but you are way off the mark if you really think it is 'anybody of religion' who 'jumps on the superiority train' because - in my opinion - the polar opposite is true, and as Livia so rightly points out, it is people of faith who dare to post who are immediately berated, made to appear like 'nutters', and put on the defensive.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

????????????????????????? And how did you deduce that from me stating that in my opinion most atheists ask a question of people of faith, then refuse to listen to, or accept the answer, usually through bigotry. No I did not specifically use the words; "In my opinion" but I expected that this much would be clear based on the fact it is me posting.

I edited that line out purely because I am a reasonable person, didn't realise that it could be misconstrued, and did not mean to cause unnecessary offence which was not my intention.

I don't know you or how many posts on these various 'religious' threads you have actually read, but you are way off the mark if you really think it is 'anybody of religion' who 'jumps on the superiority train' because - in my opinion - the polar opposite is true, and as Livia so rightly points out, it is people of faith who dare to post who are immediately berated, made to appear like 'nutters', and put on the defensive.

Thats a lot of question marks.
Can you point me to the post where someone called you a nutter please because i dont see it i think you might have confused people who dont hold the same viewpoint as you thinking people are calling you a nutter.

You need to calm down a bit and then you might stand a chance of not offending people before you have even finished making your point and pretending someone made you look like a nutter when they didnt just comes across as a bit strange.
All the best to you though and have a great day.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Thats a lot of question marks.
Can you point me to the post where someone called you a nutter please because i dont see it i think you might have confused people who dont hold the same viewpoint as you thinking people are calling you a nutter.

You need to calm down a bit and then you might stand a chance of not offending people before you have even finished making your point and pretending someone made you look like a nutter when they didnt just comes across as a bit strange.
All the best to you though and have a great day.

Thank you Bobnot, and you have a good day too.

I didn't actually say that anyone had called me a 'nutter', I said 'made to appear like 'nutters'.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Thank you Bobnot, and you have a good day too.

I didn't actually say that anyone had called me a 'nutter', I said 'made to appear like 'nutters'.

Look im not a religious person nor do i judge anyone that is religious infact i don't judge anybody based on belief,sexuality,colour of skin or anything other than how they behave as a person i treat them based on how they treat me and that's it everyone is equal and i wish everyone thought the same.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by bobnot

Look im not a religious person nor do i judge anyone that is religious infact i don't judge anybody based on belief,sexuality,colour of skin or anything other than how they behave as a person i treat them based on how they treat me and that's it everyone is equal and i wish everyone thought the same.

Ok mate - I accept what you're saying and actually agree with you. I wish everyone was the same.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You entered the thread with the default standpoint of your point of view being superior to anybody else's that has shown the audacity to not be religious and that to not be religious is somehow offensive and inferior. I have never passed judgement on anybodys religion nor have i ever ridiculed anybody for their beliefs but it pisses me off when anybody of any religion jumps on the superiority train or even (as the opening post in this thread suggested before it was edited) trys to suggest their standpoint is in any way better than anybody elses.
The victim standpoint is just low if you are going to jump on the this is always the way they react train then expect to get picked up on it.


edit: Damn this is a crap post but yes Livia you annoyed me

Bob, I have never viewed my standpoint on religion as being superior to anyone. I don't expect people to accept my religion and I would never say it was right and others' beliefs were wrong, nor would I encourage anyone to think anything but what they want to think. If people don't believe, that's up to them and I totally respect their right to believe in anything they like, or not to believe in anything. It just saddens me that whenever there's a discussion about religion people who don't believe give the impression that people who do believe are stupid. I don't even think people realise they're doing it! On the "what religion are you" thread, Niamh (I love you Niamh, but you did say this...) said "I was a Catholic until I was old enough to think for myself", suggesting that people who are religious can't think for themselves.

I would just like people to cut others some slack when it comes to religion. Disagree with it, argue against it, but you have no more proof that God doesn't exist than I have that he does.

Sorry I annoyed you Bob, but your pic annoyed me too x