[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

(kidding... i totally agree with you

Originally Posted by Ninastar

(kidding... i totally agree with you

Haha that picture

Just don't understand this self loathing attitude that seems to be popular among the 'liberals' nowadays. Nobody ever kicks off about the Spanish colonisation campaigns or Japan's horrific regimes in Korea but instead target the British Empire as some sort of ultimate evil that cannot be matched. For me the events that Nazi Germany oversaw between 1933-1945 far overshadows the 'misdeeds' of the English from all the way back when the Normans stuck an arrow in Harold Godwinson's eye and nicked his country. But nah it's US that should all be ashamed to be English. Just us. **** it I'm proud to be English.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Haha that picture

Just don't understand this self loathing attitude that seems to be popular among the 'liberals' nowadays. Nobody ever kicks off about the Spanish colonisation campaigns or Japan's horrific regimes in Korea but instead target the British Empire as some sort of ultimate evil that cannot be matched. For me the events that Nazi Germany oversaw between 1933-1945 far overshadows the 'misdeeds' of the English from all the way back when the Normans stuck an arrow in Harold Godwinson's eye and nicked his country. But nah it's US that should all be ashamed to be English. Just us. **** it I'm proud to be English.

I thought you were Scottish?

[Kyle]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I thought you were Scottish?

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in?

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in?

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

that's not what you were saying during the Scottish referendum!

[Benjamin]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Absolutely not lmao. Our country has a horrible history - take colonising for example.

Every country has a horrible history lol

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Benjamin

Every country has a horrible history lol

It has, and I bet too other countries have sprawling conurbations with recent and multi generation immigrants as well as pockets with little or no integration with the indigenous population. Why is this so hard for OFSTED to understand?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

Which part of Scotland is South Yorkshire in?

I have a Scottish dad if that's what your mean but I've always said I don't identity with Scotland I consider myself English.

Lend me that fecking Joke book - every one's ignoring mine.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Blimey, god forbid a school in England is 'too English'. Can't these idiots see how they pander to the extremists of religions such as Islam.

They come across as weak and lacking respect and confidence in the own country and its culture and values. It almost sounds like self-hate. I feel sorry for these weak and blind people - they are not typically English in my book. They need to develop a bit of backbone. Thank god for the rest of us not so quick to kiss feet and deny their own heritage in their own country.

Brilliantly put.

These bastards have their own covert agenda and will not stop until every town's skyline is filled with the domes of Mosques, every Christian chapel and church are Bingo halls, and we are all living under Sharia law - or dying under it because we don't fit the brief.

[the truth]

by this reckoning supporting England and singing any English/british anthems and songs is racist

[the truth]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Brilliantly put.

These bastards have their own covert agenda and will not stop until every town's skyline is filled with the domes of Mosques, every Christian chapel and church are Bingo halls, and we are all living under Sharia law - or dying under it because we don't fit the brief.

these idiots polictically correct fools of the radical liberal left and the usual crowd of atheists who mock anyone with beliefs are too blame
theyre so stupid they actually lump all religions the same and Christianity the same as islamd lol..........little do they realise theyre marching straight into sharia law
you stand for nothing you fall for anything

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by MTVN

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

..I agree with you and I don't think it's even playing devil's advocate because they did get a great..(good) Ofsted but the head herself acknowledges that they haven't done enough in terms of linking or twinning with other schools to give the children an understanding of other cultures/traditions etc but it's something they are working on..so they really couldn't have got an 'Outstanding'....there are a lot of similar rural schools to this and mine is one of them but we're twinned with some inner city London schools and also one in Africa and one in India as well....if other cultures are not taught then indeed there will be a 'bubble effect' to the children's education and that's something Ofsted do and should consider imo...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by MTVN

For all but one year I was at primary school it was entirely white British, though we did have less than 50 pupils in the whole school

To play devil's advocate here though, there is a point to be made that diversity awareness needs to be taught because the kids will meet a very different world outside of their rural bubble, perhaps Ofsted considered the school was not doing enough to prepare kids for their post-primary school life in that regard. Hard to say without knowing all the details, but the 'too English' description is slightly misleading considering it's not the words of Ofsted but those of the Mail and apparently of the parents.

I agree, that on these controversial topics, we are always reliant upon the accuracy and honesty of the source, for formulating our opinions, and I also agree that "diversity awareness" does need to be taught, but, in my opinion, this can often be achieved by good teaching alone. No one needs to wheel in a gagged and bound Peter Sutcliffe on a sack trolley - 'Hannibal Lecter' style - and seat him in class for three years to teach kids about serial killers.

Joking apart, that would be a pretty dangerous thing to do if the situation wasn't correctly monitored eh?

Well no more dangerous than what could transpire if this school - or others like it which are in more racially diverse locations - capitulate to Ofsted and go too far in their efforts to please and appease it.

They could ultimately end up in a situation where the indigenous 'English' children become the 'ethnic' minority, and its performance figures plummet faster than Ed Milliband's popularity. There are numerous inner city schools where this is the actual 'Status Quo'.

As I have said before elsewhere - true integration in this country does not exist outside of white collar, middle class areas.

Adult immigrants are highly suspicious of, contemptuous of, or even racially intolerant of, British people. For diverse reasons, upon coming to Britain, they gravitate to locations where their 'own kind' are already ensconced, and 'Ghettos' are formed - and yes, I am dealing with Asian immigrants here.

For the most part, these adult immigrants keep themselves to themselves, remain suspicious of indigenous British people, and do not attempt to learn the English language, or British customs.

Over time, these areas become 'seed beds' where the more educated, intelligent and radical immigrants (or even British born grown up children of immigrants) develop their extreme fundamentalist viewpoints from their original contempt of we British. It is then not long, before these fundamentalists emerge from the shadows and begin to brazenly denounce our traditions, morals, and 'Western' way of life.

This is not integration, it is desired usurpation. They do not want to 'fit in' with us, they want to eradicate this free, democratic, multi-cultural, multi-faith country and replace it with another State of Islam.

This being so, it is only within schools and with children, where real integration has any realistic chance of actually being achieved, but there has to be a sensible and cautious agenda. Otherwise - as stated - it could all too easily result in a situation where the indigenous 'English' children become the 'ethnic' minority.

I believe that since the report under discussion, it has emerged that Ofsted has actually criticised some of these inner city schools for the same reason - though I don't know if this is genuine criticism or a just a show of PC 'balancing'.

What I do know, is that this is the greatest country on the planet and it's people are among the most racially tolerant on the planet, but in order to keep it this way, we need to ensure that 'tolerance' does not become 'apathy'.

St. Francis Xavier famously said: “Give me the child until he is seven and I’ll give you the man”.

Let's just ensure that the 'Man' is not a Muslim Fundamentalist sympathiser due to being 'given' to the wrong people until the age of seven.

[Niall]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Being too English should be seen as a good thing.

Are you on crack? Unbridled patriotism like that is a cancer on society.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niall

Are you on crack? Unbridled patriotism like that is a cancer on society.