[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Rioting is probably not the way to go but people should be free to protest in their own country if they believe that the justice system is biased

They can protest all they like but not use misinformation and drama to steal and act like hoodlums

[lostalex]

It makes me proud of the gay rights movement, and gay rights parades and protests. Other minority rights groups/activists engage in SHAMEful behavior, while almost all gay rights protests are all about PRIDE.

Shame on the "protesters" in Ferguson. disgraceful. I would be aSHAMEd if i was a member of that community.

[Creggle]

From everything I've read about this, the officer was well in the right shooting 'Mr.' Brown. Would of been better if he had disabled him rather than killing him but it's hardly a loss to the world that this kid is dead... If he was white, there would be no issue, this is just a group of people jumping at the chance to kick up a fuss because OBVIOUSLY every bloody 'injustice' in the world (if this could even be classed as such a thing) has to boil down to racism... No.
It was a dangerous criminal putting people at risk, he got put down, end of story.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

America, a place where you can kill unarmed teenagers but only if they're black...

TiBB, a place where mods can talk complete nonsense and act smug about it...

Everywhere in America it is just as illegal to kill a black person as a white person. Stop talking **** Dizzy.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Creggle

From everything I've read about this, the officer was well in the right shooting 'Mr.' Brown. Would of been better if he had disabled him rather than killing him but it's hardly a loss to the world that this kid is dead... If he was white, there would be no issue, this is just a group of people jumping at the chance to kick up a fuss because OBVIOUSLY every bloody 'injustice' in the world (if this could even be classed as such a thing) has to boil down to racism... No.
It was a dangerous criminal putting people at risk, he got put down, end of story.

Unarmed, you are so right. Major threat.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

It makes me proud of the gay rights movement, and gay rights parades and protests. Other minority rights groups/activists engage in SHAMEful behavior, while almost all gay rights protests are all about PRIDE.

Shame on the "protesters" in Ferguson. disgraceful. I would be aSHAMEd if i was a member of that community.

Gay rights, with plenty of gay people in positions and employment in the higher end of the spectrum where help and support can be obtained to avoid being "uncivilised" "apes".

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Creggle

From everything I've read about this, the officer was well in the right shooting 'Mr.' Brown. Would of been better if he had disabled him rather than killing him but it's hardly a loss to the world that this kid is dead... If he was white, there would be no issue, this is just a group of people jumping at the chance to kick up a fuss because OBVIOUSLY every bloody 'injustice' in the world (if this could even be classed as such a thing) has to boil down to racism... No.
It was a dangerous criminal putting people at risk, he got put down, end of story.

Very brave of you to say so...

I do agree with you, but i think police brutality is quite bad in the states...

Although saying this, if you had to deal with all the things they have to, surely you would be brutal/paranoid?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Gay rights, with plenty of positions and employment in the higher end of the spectrum where help and support can be obtained to avoid being "uncivilised" "apes".

really? compare how many scholarships there are for blacks compared to scholarships for gays. not to mention the fact that blacks have had equal rights for over 50 years now, while gays still don't have equal rights.

You should think before you speak. It's a fact that gays have it worse in this country and around the world than blacks, that's a fact.

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Very brave of you to say so...

I do agree with you, but i think police brutality is quite bad in the states...

Although saying this, if you had to deal with all the things they have to, surely you would be brutal/paranoid?

you hit the nail on the head Nina. this is about Police training and conduct, nothing to do with racism at all. there is no evidence that race played a part in this case at all. I haven't heard any evidence that this police officer was a racist.

[lostalex]

I think there should be a separate thread for the 12 y/o fake gun story. It doesn't make sense for us to be discussion both at the same time.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Unarmed, you are so right. Major threat.

He's as big and nasty as somebody twice his age, he lives in a rough area and his family may own guns, it isn't a stretch the believe his could be real. Failing that, he could seriously injure somebody throwing his weight around. The cop made a decision and was in his rights to do so, imagine what this psychopath could of been capable of in 6 years time, it was prison or the morgue.

Don't get me wrong, in a perfect world prison would of been better, then he could of justifiably ate a bullet if he did something like this when he got out, but what happened happened. Not everybody get's a second chance.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Very brave of you to say so...

I do agree with you, but i think police brutality is quite bad in the states...

Although saying this, if you had to deal with all the things they have to, surely you would be brutal/paranoid?

If I was an officer in the USA, and had a knickel for every criminal going to the hospital with a bullet or 10 in their legs... I'd retire early

EDIT: fml double post

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by lostalex

I think there should be a separate thread for the 12 y/o fake gun story. It doesn't make sense for us to be discussion both at the same time.

Yeah, you're right, I'll move these posts

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

really? compare how many scholarships there are for blacks compared to scholarships for gays. not to mention the fact that blacks have had equal rights for over 50 years now, while gays still don't have equal rights.

Blacks have been fighting for equal/civil rights since the 1900's, possibly earlier. In the earlier stages plenty of our protests and parades were civilised too.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Creggle

He's as big and nasty as somebody twice his age, he lives in a rough area and his family may own guns, it isn't a stretch the believe his could be real. Failing that, he could seriously injure somebody throwing his weight around. The cop made a decision and was in his rights to do so, imagine what this psychopath could of been capable of in 6 years time, it was prison or the morgue.

Don't get me wrong, in a perfect world prison would of been better, then he could of justifiably ate a bullet if he did something like this when he got out, but what happened happened. Not everybody get's a second chance.

Are you a cop? You sound like one. Family possibly owned a gun like those whites that go to those gun practising establishments on a weekly basis? Big and nasty like Hulk hogan like the cop described? If cops can't handle coming face to face with people twice their size they shouldn't be in this business. There should have been other options then shooting him dead. He was unarmed!! Nobody should be shot dead on assumption. And he was nasty? Why because the press said so? Why is there no pics of him graduating in huge news outlets? He was an animal lover why isn't it talked about? No they only vilify who they want to so the public can be like he "deserved" it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Blacks have been fighting for equal/civil rights since the 1900's, possibly earlier. In the earlier stages plenty of our protests and parades were civilised too.

Yes we know that

There is a Black President now
trouble is he acted as a adviser all the time
and Failed America.

The Bin Laden mission was on
who ever was in power

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Are you a cop? You sound like one. Family possibly owned a gun like those whites that go to those gun practising establishments on a weekly basis? Big and nasty like Hulk hogan like the cop described? If cops can't handle coming face to face with people twice their size they shouldn't be in this business. There should have been other options then shooting him dead. He was unarmed!! Nobody should be shot dead on assumption. And he was nasty? Why because the press said so? Why is there no pics of him graduating in huge news outlets? He was an animal lover why isn't it talked about? No they only vilify who they want to so the public can be like he "deserved" it.

It isn't that comparable though, any family that own firearms, aren't going to leave them on the coffee table, especially when they know they have a problem child running around the house with a juvenile record, unless they are a messed up, criminalized family that don't give a ****. Also, you don't think gun peddlers sell to children over there!?

So... You're in the 'ghetto' and a person who looks around 18-20 demands something from a shop clerk, waving a gun around... Pretty open and shut case imo, he shouldn't of fired a fatal shot, just like you shouldnt open a glass door by pressing on the glass, but w.e.

I'd rather a criminal die with a fake gun in their hand than an officer of the law dying because they decided not to open fire. Not everyones lives are equal, there a things in this world that you can do, to devalue your own, and holding up a shop at gunpoint is one of them. The fact the gun was fake doesn't mean sh!t, was it a bright pink super soaker? There was no way to tell his 'toy' was a toy without him firing a shot or without inspecting it after the fact. If it's real and even if you shoot the dude in the leg, what's to stop him putting 3 in your chest on the way down?

[Shaun]

Oh lord you're a ****ing idiot

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Rioting is probably not the way to go but people should be free to protest in their own country if they believe that the justice system is biased

This, America is not suppose to be a dictatorship.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by Creggle

It isn't that comparable though, any family that own firearms, aren't going to leave them on the coffee table, especially when they know they have a problem child running around the house with a juvenile record, unless they are a messed up, criminalized family that don't give a ****. Also, you don't think gun peddlers sell to children over there!?

So... You're in the 'ghetto' and a person who looks around 18-20 demands something from a shop clerk, waving a gun around... Pretty open and shut case imo, he shouldn't of fired a fatal shot, just like you shouldnt open a glass door by pressing on the glass, but w.e.

I'd rather a criminal die with a fake gun in their hand than an officer of the law dying because they decided not to open fire. Not everyones lives are equal, there a things in this world that you can do, to devalue your own, and holding up a shop at gunpoint is one of them. The fact the gun was fake doesn't mean sh!t, was it a bright pink super soaker? There was no way to tell his 'toy' was a toy without him firing a shot or without inspecting it after the fact. If it's real and even if you shoot the dude in the leg, what's to stop him putting 3 in your chest on the way down?

A WHITE HIGH SCHOOL FOOTBALL STAR VIOLENTLY RAPED A GIRL, FILMED IT, AND PUT IT ONLINE BUT HE SHOULDN’T GET PUNISHED.

A BLACK KID CARRYING SKITTLES GETS SHOT AND WAS A THUG.

A WHITE KID SHOOTS UP A UNIVERSITY BUT HE WAS SUCH A GOOD KID.

AN UNARMED BLACK KID GETS SHOT 6 TIMES AND DESERVED TO DIE.

A WHITE GUY RAPES HIS THREE YEAR OLD DAUGHTER, BUT DOESN’T GO TO PRISON.

A BLACK KID WITH A BB GUN IS SHOT AND KILLED ON SITE.

...

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

Blacks have been fighting for equal/civil rights since the 1900's, possibly earlier. In the earlier stages plenty of our protests and parades were civilised too.

[IMG]propaganda[/IMG]

wow, cute propaganda image. yay for google images...

and gay people have been oppressed, enslaved and had their rights denied since the beginning of time by not only white people, but by Blacks and every other race too.

What is your point?

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by The Mockinator

This, America is not suppose to be a dictatorship.

If the "protesters" in Ferguson had their way, we'd be ruled by Mobs (who seem more interested in sneakers, weaves, and liquor than anything else)

Remind me again what looting a beauty supply shop has to do with civil rights? oh yea, i forgot, we aren't allowed to talk about black women's hair...

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

...

wut? LOL

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by lostalex

wow, cute propaganda image. yay for google images...

and gay people have been oppressed, enslaved and had their rights denied since the beginning of time by not only white people, but by Blacks and every other race too.

What is your point?

You used the time frame difference of blacks having rights over 50 years now (apparently). My point was don't compare the timeline of black rights movement and gay rights movement. LGB was around in the 80's and became LGBT in the 1990's. You mentioned all the achievements blacks have achieved in regard to their movement, they've been doing it for ages so rightly so there should been some progress. Your side is getting there beginning with gay marriage but this isn't about homosexuals so stop making it about them in every situation.

"Other minority rights groups/activists engage in SHAMEful behavior, while almost all gay rights protests are all about PRIDE."

Funny because I am reading some articles and white people have started many riots over various subjects like someone getting fired, beer not being allowed at an event, pumpkins, football games, surf competition but people riot about one kid who they think was unjustly killed and we get comments like "I don't care about black, go "BACH" to Africa", "shameful behaviour". Oh the white priviledge. And why isn't the news talking about this outcome, they mentioned Lee Rigby I couldn't be arsed this time. If Mike Brown was white they would not have talked about his supposed thuggish side but they would have painted him as a bright, loving kid who lost his mind along the way. If Lee Rigby did some bad **** in the past we would hardly know about it because all that matters is that one moment that he was killed, as it should be for Mike Brown but nope, everything has to go against him, his family owns guns, he looked like an oversized demon, he lives in the ghetto. Can't win.

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Edit: Ok ITV news will report Ferguson.