[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

If that's a direct quote, then the bitch is not only ignorant but illiterate.

So LMFAO too.

It was. Here is another people are passing around.

[Ammi]

..it's strange how it was all concentrated on the inconsistencies of the witnesses testimonies but there seem to be inconsistencies in Wilson's also...he seemed to have a 'clear' head in his thought processes as he described them how he thought about using mace but then decided that wouldn't maybe be effective..?...and then his flashlight..?..before coming to the conclusion that he had to draw his gun....and yet when he was firing..(repeatedly..)...and someone who was unarmed, he couldn't remember how many shots were fired, where he had aimed exactly..?...

...it's also apparently the first time that he had used his firearm...it kind of leads you to think that maybe at the very least, he completely panicked in what was genuine fear...but that in itself is surely completely unacceptable because a member of the public would be charged in a similar situation..?...he's a trained police officer..he's trained not to panic....just because he may have felt that Michael Brown was a threat to his life, doesn't mean that he was one...and if he was still having 'rational thought' like he himself describes then why wasn't that identified by him also....an aimed non lethal shot would have prevented that threat/preserved life... but 12 shots suggests panic and completely wrong for the situation he found himself in....

[Ammi]

..oh also, the anger thing and that Michael Brown looked like a 'demon' or something..?...when he described that 'look', he had just shot him, saw the blood so that 'look' would have surely been pain....my personal thoughts are that instead od waiting for some kind of back up, he went into a situation..lost control of it..became scared/panicked and shot and shot at Michael Brown until he was lifeless, so removing his fear....but that's murder though, isn't it..?...

[Kizzy]

Anyone would look like a demon if you blew the top of their head off?
That's hard to get over the fact he shot him 12 times, you would think that if acting rationally after shooting someone 6 or 7 times you would be pretty sure life was extinct...but 12?

[kirklancaster]

Quote From Kizzy: "Anyone would look like a demon if you blew the top of their head off?
That's hard to get over the fact he shot him 12 times, you would think that if acting rationally after shooting someone 6 or 7 times you would be pretty sure life was extinct...but 12?"

You got it Kiz. -- When Homicide detectives come across a victim who has been stabbed repeatedly, say, 12 times, they immediately mentally categorize the motive for the murder as being 'personal' - ie; being committed by someone who knew the victim and who was acting out of 'rage' for personal reasons - especially if some of those wounds were inflicted 'post mortem'.

We do not yet know whether the cop Wilson knew Michael Brown previous to murdering him, but it is patently clear to any logical, impartial person, that the number of times he shot him would suggest either a 'knee jerk' over-reaction of panic due to sheer terror, or a contemptuous action of deliberate execution in an explosion of rage because of some twisted inner hatred.

The internet is full of 'eyewitness' accounts of what transpired - some of it conflicting - but the more weighty, more credible evidence, would suggest that Brown was clearly unarmed when first shot by Wilson, and that after being shot, he then tried to stagger away and was shot in the back, then turned to face Wilson and was then shot again. This is hardly the actions of a man who would strike terror in a trained, armed police officer, nor the 'knee jerk' panicked reaction of that officer succumbing to such terror.

No; having read all there is to currently read on the incident, and having viewed the numerous video footage, my initial conclusion - that this was a callous, unnecessary, racially motivated execution by a serving police officer, has been reinforced.

The fact that Brown was a bullying thieving thug - which some hurl into the discussion as some form of justification for Wilson's execution - has no relevance here at all. If Brown was such a thug, then he should have been arrested and charged and put into a prison cell to await the due processes of American law.

Wilson needs professional psychiatric evaluation, and his background needs exhaustive checking into by impartial investigators - but only after undergoing an independently orchestrated polygraph examination.

[Kizzy]

I read they were denying he was shot in the back?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Leader of KKK admits to having friends in the Law enforcement and admits to talking to them off the record. What a surprise. 4:50

Youtube video

Ok well he paid

Youtube video

But that's ok conveniently forget to release this footage as well. Just release the part they have released which portrays a different narrative to what actually happened. Oh my life. And that pig going on TV saying he has a clear conscience...unbelievable.

-White Kids on social media showing guns saying Missouri i'm coming, shoot those porch monkeys down
-Another little fact the examining photographer said he didn't take pictures because his camera had died. How professional.

Missouri’s tortured history of racism: Why the inferno in Ferguson is no surprise
http://www.salon.com/2014/08/21/miss...prise_partner/

For decades the state has been a hot bed for the country's most virulent racists, from neo-Nazis to the KKK


The past week’s unfolding tragedy in Ferguson, Missouri, with its militarized and overwhelmingly white police force confronting angry and hopeless African-Americans, is not a story unique to that place or this moment. Many cities and towns in this country confront the same problems of poverty, alienation and inequality as metropolitan St. Louis — or even worse.

But beneath the familiar narrative, there is a deeper history that reflects the unfinished agenda of race relations — and the persistence of poisonous prejudice that has never been fully cleansed from the American mainstream.

For decades, Missouri has spawned or attracted many of the nation’s most virulent racists, including neo-Nazis and the remnants of the once-powerful Ku Klux Klan. Associated with violent criminality and crackpot religious extremism, these fringe groups could never wield much influence in the post-civil rights era. Beyond those marginalized outfits, however, exists another white supremacist group whose leaders have long enjoyed the patronage of right-wing Republican politicians.

The Council of Conservative Citizens, headquartered in St. Louis, is a living legacy of Southern “white resistance” to desegregation, with historical roots in the so-called citizens councils that sprang up during the 1950s as a “respectable” adjunct to the Klan. Its website currently proclaims that the CCC is “the only serious nationwide activist group that sticks up for white rights!” What that means, more specifically, is promoting hatred of blacks, Jews, gays and lesbians, and Latino immigrants while extolling the virtues of the “Southern way of life,” the Confederacy and even slavery.

The group’s website goes on to brag that the CCC is the only group promoting “white rights” whose meetings regularly feature “numerous elected officials, important authors, talk-show hosts, active pastors, and other important people” as speakers.

Although that boast may be exaggerated, it isn’t hollow. Founded in 1985 by the ax handle-wielding Georgia segregationist Lester Maddox and a group of white activists, the CCC remained obscure to most Americans until 1998, when media exposure of its ties to prominent congressional Republicans led to the resignation of Sen. Trent Lott of Mississippi as majority leader. Six years later, the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit group monitoring racist activity in the United States, reported that the CCC had hosted as many as 38 federal, state and local officials at its meetings (all of them Republicans, except one Democrat) — despite a warning from the Republican National Committee against associating with the hate group.

Over the years, the CCC’s friends in high places included such figures as former Sen. John Ashcroft of Missouri, who shared much of the CCC agenda as governor, when he opposed “forced desegregation” of St. Louis schools — along with the CCC members who served on the city’s school board. When President George W. Bush appointed Ashcroft as U.S. attorney general, the CCC openly celebrated, declaring in its newsletter, “Our Ship Has Come In.”

Recently, far fewer Republican officials have been willing to associate in public with the CCC’s racist leaders. Then again, however, Ashcroft himself tended to meet secretly with those same bigots while outwardly shunning them. When asked about his connections with the group during his confirmation hearings in 2001, he swore that he had no inkling of its racist and anti-Semitic propaganda — a very implausible excuse, given the CCC’s prominence in St. Louis while he served as governor.

Despite the CCC’s presence, Missouri is home to many fine and decent people, of course — but malignant traces of the group and the racial animus it represents have spread far beyond the state’s borders. The most obvious example is Rush Limbaugh, the “conservative” cultural phenomenon who grew up south of St. Louis — in Cape Girardeau, Missouri — and who has earned a reputation as a racial agitator over many years on talk radio, where he began by doing mocking bits in “black” dialect.

In 1998, the talk jock defended Lott when other conservatives were demanding his resignation over the politician’s CCC connection. Today Limbaugh echoes the CCC line on the Michael Brown killing in Ferguson, which suggests coldly that the unarmed teenager deserved his fate because he may have been a suspect in shoplifting or smoked marijuana. Why would a young man’s life be worth less than a box of cigars? Back in Rush’s home state, the answer is all too obvious.

Joe Conason is the editor in chief of NationalMemo.com. To find out more about Joe Conason, visit the Creators Syndicate website at www.creators.com.

[kirklancaster]

[QUOTE=Ammi;7391167]..it's strange how it was all concentrated on the inconsistencies of the witnesses testimonies but there seem to be inconsistencies in Wilson's also...he seemed to have a 'clear' head in his thought processes as he described them how he thought about using mace but then decided that wouldn't maybe be effective..?...and then his flashlight..?..before coming to the conclusion that he had to draw his gun....

Absolutely Ammi -- such a self proclaimed sequence of thought processes are hardly supportive of "unavoidable action" due to a "state of panic" or "fear for life" are they?

Rule the panic driven knee-jerk reaction theory out, and we are left with only one conclusion - deliberate execution of an unarmed man by a serving police officer for his own personal motives.

It is then, only the motives themselves which need theorising and speculating upon.

Did the Officer Wilson detest people with the name Brown? Did he detest thieves? Did he lose his temper because - according to some eyewitnesses he attempted to open his 'prowler' car door but couldn't because he initially drew up too close to Brown and Johnson? Did Brown and Wilson struggle through the open window of the prowler? Did Wilson's gun go off accidentally during such a struggle?

All the above is totally irrelevant in addressing the $64,000 question of whether Wilson shot Brown legitimately 'in the line of duty'? or executed him unnecessarily for personal reasons.

The facts are irrefutable;

Brown was unharmed, debilitated and wounded by Wilson's first shot, so every additional shot was both unnecessary and of murderous intent.

There is absolutely no mitigation for the other shots - be they an additional 5 or an additional 11.

This was murder. Nothing less, and only the motive remains to be ascertained. I know - given the facts as we have them - what my conclusion is.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I read they were denying he was shot in the back?

Yes Kizzy, but I'm going by the greater weight of testimony from what I deem the more credible of actual 'eyewitnesses' rather than those highly suspect 'Johnny Come Lately's whose 'testimony' I believe is deeply suspect and rather a convenient 'Deux Ex Machina' as far as the sanitized police version of events are concerned.

[Kizzy]

Is there a post mortem report published?

[Ammi]

..the thing about it is as well...the 'demon look' or however he described it would be contributed to the fact that he had just been shot and wounded and the only time that Wilson could genuinely been in fear for his life was when there was an apparent struggle in the car when he said that Michael Brown tried to grab it and point it back at him..?...other than that, Michael Brown was running away from the incident and Wilson perused him ...even if he wasn't shot in the back...what Wilson said was that he feared his life when he killed Michael Brown...?...so when Michael Brown was approaching him and close enough to be a threat..(as he was unarmed..) so had to be pretty close to him...then a trained police office could not prevent that threat at such a close range with one shot to wound..?...or was he further away and more shots were required..?...so he wasn't a threat to Wilson's life then..?...

...I think he just put his finger on the trigger of his gun and didn't stop until the gun was empty at a time when there was no longer a 'threat' to his life and there is no way that was 'self defence'....and those are by Wilson's own version....not by any other eye witness accounts....

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Yes Kizzy, but I'm going by the greater weight of testimony from what I deem the more credible of actual 'eyewitnesses' rather than those highly suspect 'Johnny Come Lately's whose 'testimony' I believe is deeply suspect and rather a convenient 'Deux Ex Machina' as far as the sanitized police version of events are concerned.

..it doesn't matter whether he was shot in the back or not though Kirk from the point that he still shot and killed Michael Brown when he was no threat to his life...

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..it doesn't matter whether he was shot in the back or not though Kirk from the point that he still shot and killed Michael Brown when he was no threat to his life...

Yes my love - you are right. Oh am I so glad you're back

Seriously Ammi, you are right - it does not matter. It's more damning, but - as you say - it does not alter the fact that Brown was not presenting a threat to anyone when Wilson shot him.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Is there a post mortem report published?

I saw a reference to one Kizzy whilst I was browsing the internet in the early hours, but now can't seem to find it. I'll let you know and paste the link (getting all techno now thanks to Ammi) if I do find it.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ammi

..the thing about it is as well...the 'demon look' or however he described it would be contributed to the fact that he had just been shot and wounded and the only time that Wilson could genuinely been in fear for his life was when there was an apparent struggle in the car when he said that Michael Brown tried to grab it and point it back at him..?...other than that, Michael Brown was running away from the incident and Wilson perused him ...even if he wasn't shot in the back...what Wilson said was that he feared his life when he killed Michael Brown...?...so when Michael Brown was approaching him and close enough to be a threat..(as he was unarmed..) so had to be pretty close to him...then a trained police office could not prevent that threat at such a close range with one shot to wound..?...or was he further away and more shots were required..?...so he wasn't a threat to Wilson's life then..?...

...I think he just put his finger on the trigger of his gun and didn't stop until the gun was empty at a time when there was no longer a 'threat' to his life and there is no way that was 'self defence'....and those are by Wilson's own version....not by any other eye witness accounts....

M.Brown was a Walking Death Wish
look at him here robbing a store

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

The dumbass that wrote on twitter "black people we don't care about you go "bach" to Africa we never should have bought you" has been fired. The dumbass had her employment place on facebook and so many people called there. Lmao stoopid.

Another one wrote so is this the beginning of planet of the apes?...she's being handled! People tracked the **** out of them, got their work number and they are going to town.

That's disgusting, I'm glad she got fired, might teach her to think before she says such vile things. People are so brave when they're sitting behind a computer, I'm glad it caught up with her

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by arista

M.Brown was a Walking Death Wish
look at him here robbing a store

You're still talking about that walking death wish crap?

Look at the footage above. He paid. Which means those pics you are showing could mean anything else? Who knows? Maybe they are having an altercation, which millions of people do on a daily basis. He is huge so to ya'll he would look like the menacing one. But they media are going to stick to the story that he robbed, and people like you that want to believe he was a monster that deserved it will keep believing that the bottom line is that he was robbing.

And by your statement what you are saying is that all kids that rob deserve death. So all those white council kids, all those black council kids, rob cigs, rob drinks, rob snacks you deserve death?

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Ferguson Killer Cop Darren Wilson 'Linked to KKK Ghoul Squad'

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-f...-squad-1475953

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/anonymous-f...-squad-1475953

Anonymous



Yet again posting crap

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

It was. Here is another people are passing around.

No Africa does not want them

[arista]

"rob snacks you deserve death?"

Its America
I have been there
its not like here

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Originally Posted by arista

Anonymous



Yet again posting crap

And it's coming from a legit news so your point is ****ing invalid. News is only relevant to you when it agrees with your point of view that he's a monster. The youtube clip is also crap to you is it? No all that matters is that he grabbing a little asian man. Lots of people grab and bottle each other on a good night out in Manchester does that label them a walking death wish.

Now that anger is cooling off a little bit this is upsetting. It's like we're taking 20 steps back. There's a facebook post of one of the leaders of the KKK saying that he was checking into the police department in Ferguson, once again showing ties with the department there. KKK are just itching to lynch and murder. Makes me so sad. People keep going on about a black president, please like he makes any decisions. His speech yesterday sounded like a pussy talking. No action or solutions like he's worried to hurt feelings.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Ithinkiloveyoutoo

And it's coming from a legit news so your point is ****ing invalid. News is only relevant to you when it agrees with your point of view that he's a monster. The youtube clip is also crap to you is it? No all that matters is that he grabbing a little asian man. Lots of people grab and bottle each other on a good night out in Manchester does that label them a walking death wish.

Now that anger is cooling off a little bit this is upsetting. It's like we're taking 20 steps back. There's a facebook post of one of the leaders of the KKK saying that he was checking into the police department in Ferguson, once again showing ties with the department there. KKK are just itching to lynch and murder. Makes me so sad. People keep going on about a black president, please like he makes any decisions. His speech yesterday sounded like a pussy talking. No action or solutions like he's worried to hurt feelings.

Point is
Is it FAKE?


Thats all.

[Ninastar]

http://conservativetribune.com/new-a...michael-brown/