[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

No need to get uppity. I don't class her as a prostitute, because I don't regard the fact that she lived in the Playboy mansion or even gave sexual favours to Heffner as any different to what a lot of other female 'celebrities' have done in order to become rich and famous.

From 'Page 3's' through 'Film Stars' to 'TV Presenters' and even certain 'High Flying Businesswomen', there are those who 'prostituted their principles' in some form or other to get where they are - and a hell of a lot of these are well loved names. Isn't this a form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

There are also a lot of woman who are married and have children to men who are (secretly) not the partner of their dreams, but these women 'compromised' and 'settled' for less than their ideal in return for security and stability. As these women are expected to provide sexual favours for their husbands as part of married life, isn't this then another form of 'prostitution' by your criterion?

Kendra may have deliberately, and cynically, elected to secure her future by becoming a Playboy Housemate, or she may have been seduced into it, but the fact that she spent 6 years there - even if occasionally having to 'service' the abhorrent Heffner was part of her 'duties' - does not mean that she is promiscuous.

I'd be willing to wager that - in today's society - the average 18 year old girl has had more sexual partners and more dick than Kendra has.

I agree that technically, the term 'prostitute' means anyone (it's not exclusive to women) who grants sexual favours in return for money or kind, but as outlined above, there are many different types of prostitution.

As with virtually anything, this topic is subjective, but I certainly don't equate what Kendra did with drug addicts in dingy alleys selling their bodies to anyone with £10.00, 'Streetwalkers' who are not as cheap, doing the same but for £20 to £30.00, or even high class 'Escort Girls' who charge £1,000 a night or more.

In any event, she is not a Playboy Housemate any more, but is happily married with a family, so even if you do regard what she did as 'prostitution', then maybe 'ex-prostitute' may be more correct a term.

Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares.

Kendra, I guess. Your response is just what I expected though.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Kendra, I guess. Your response is just what I expected though.

Well when you try to justify the unjustifiable, what do you expect. Its like saying that the ripper shouldn't be called a murderer because he used medical implements. A prozzie is a prozzie end of. X or current is academic. Is Archimedes and x greek or is Einstein an x mathematician.

My response was evidentiary and correct, your snide comment of I expected that anyway showed you lost and you need to stop getting personal. I don't care if you like or hate my opinions, but I do draw the line at being sited for being wrong when the evidence is out there for all to see.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Well when you try to justify the unjustifiable, what do you expect. Its like saying that the ripper shouldn't be called a murderer because he used medical implements. A prozzie is a prozzie end of. X or current is academic. Is Archimedes and x greek or is Einstein an x mathematician.

My response was evidentiary and correct, your snide comment of I expected that anyway showed you lost and you need to stop getting personal. I don't care if you like or hate my opinions, but I do draw the line at being sited for being wrong when the evidence is out there for all to see.

I try - perhaps more than any other on here - to always be polite and civil, even when I've been mocked and ridiculed for some of my views, so I wasn't being personal. My comment that your response was "exactly what I expected" was not 'snide' but a reference to your terse and very dismissive response: "Naaa, too long winded, I still prefer prozzie, x or current, who cares." - which in my view personifies "snide".

As for your examples of Einstein and Archimedes - they are frankly irrelevant and ludicrous. Einstein was a practising scientist until the day he died, so he cannot ever be called an ex-scientist, whereas, Kendra no longer resides in the Playboy Mansion so is an ex- prostitute by your definition. Similarly, Archimedes being Greek by birth, remained a Greek until the day he died, so neither can he ever be called an ex-Greek.

Kendra is not a prostitute in my opinion, and never has been, but even if we accept your definition, she is certainly no more than an ex-prostitute. So I don't really lose do I?

Anyway, though I will never understand why certain people on here get so irrationally angry, and nasty and abusive about others (celebrities or Forum Members) for no clear or apparent reason, I respect your right to your opinion without agreeing with it.