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I think we really will just have to drop it. I can accept that perhaps you aren't referring to all middle eastern people, but (for reasons I've covered) I don't think that particularly matters. The way you're stating your point could easily be misconstrued as xenophobia, whether it is in fact or not, as I said that's largely irrelevant because it's the effect of such arguments that is the problem; I.e. Alienation, and why that makes conversion easier for the true "monsters" - who as I said have almost certainly never lifted a gun or a bomb in their life much less taken a life with their own hands.

The reason we will have to drop it is that clearly your argument partially extends into some form of mysticism and that's not really on my radar for rational discussion. I do not believe in God, I do not believe in evil, I do not believe in Satan, I do not believe in demons. When I look at unfathomably sadistic and twisted humans I see just that. Humans. In all of our foul, selfish, idiotic, naive and utterly wretched glory. Just people, Kirk. I think you find that difficult to accept to the point that you never will, so I conceed. You can have your demons.