[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by GypsyGoth

I think it's a shame that more people will hate normal islamic people because of this.

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

I totally agree

I ended up having an argument with my friend about this. As soon as i mentioned what happened in France, she started saying "but you shouldn't label them islamic extremists!!! islam is about peace so they arent exactly following islam!!!" like hello why can't people just acknowledge that these terrorists are awful, instead of spending their time defending islam when no-one even insulted islam in the first place ffs.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I totally agree

I ended up having an argument with my friend about this. As soon as i mentioned what happened in France, she started saying "but you shouldn't label them islamic extremists!!! islam is about peace so they arent exactly following islam!!!" like hello why can't people just acknowledge that these terrorists are awful, instead of spending their time defending islam when no-one even insulted islam in the first place ffs.

Glad you agree.

One of the reasons that they are getting so much stronger is because you can't even call them what they are.

[billy123]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

Glad you agree.

One of the reasons that they are getting so much stronger is because you can't even call them what they are.

You are free to call them what they are who said you cant they are lunatics they are evil pieces of ****. they are the scum of the earth.
These type of deluded scum aren't typical of any race or religion these evil bastards are found in equal measures everywhere in the world.
They are sick individuals.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by bobnot

You are free to call them what they are who said you cant they are lunatics they are evil pieces of ****. they are the scum of the earth.
These type of deluded scum aren't typical of any race or religion these evil bastards are found in equal measures everywhere in the world.
They are sick individuals.

why didnt you mention muslim?

[billy123]

Originally Posted by the truth

why didnt you mention muslim?

For the same reason i didnt mention their shoe size or didnt mention they have fingers and toes.
Should i have done?
Ok i will. Im ****ing sick of these wankers with arms and legs murdering people shut the borders and stop letting them in hurrr durrr.

I bet they were users of the evil that is water as well grrrr.

[Thotmas]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

There actually are those type of organizations that muslims themselves started but it doesn't get much media coverage so people don't know about it.

[Ammi]

..18yr old terror suspect surrenders to the police...




The youngest of three suspects in the Paris terror attack on a French satirical magazine has surrendered to police.

Reports suggest Hamyd Mourad, 18, handed himself in to officers.

Meanwhile images have been released of brothers Said Kouachi and Cherif Kouachi, both in their 30s, who are suspected of being part of the attack that left 12 people dead.

Officials have said the suspects are linked to a Yemeni terror network.

On Wednesday night heavily armoured French police raided an apartment in the city of Reims, east of Paris, as they continued a massive manhunt to find the killers.

Thousands of officers have reportedly been deployed in the hunt for the men behind the attack on the offices of satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo.

It has previously been targeted over its portrayal of the Prophet Mohammed.

In Wednesday's attack, three masked gunmen stormed the offices and called out their victims by name before opening fire during a morning editorial meeting.

They were armed with Kalashnikov rifles and a rocket-propelled grenade.

They were let inside the Charlie Hebdo building by a female employee who was threatened at gunpoint along with her daughter and forced to punch in a security code to allow them inside.

The editor and a cartoonist for the newspaper, who went by the pen names Charb and Cabu, were among those killed.

Radio France chief executive Mathieu Gilet announced revealed that contributor Bernard Maris was also killed.

Two police officers were among the dead, including one assigned as Charb's bodyguard after he had received death threats and another who was shot in the head as he lay wounded on the ground outside the offices.

French President Francois Hollande has declared today a national day of mourning.

In a televised address on Wednesday he said: "We have to respond according to the crime, first of all by finding the authors of this infamy and we have to ensure that they are arrested, judged... and punished very severely.

Tens of thousands of people have staged silent protests in France and across the world in solidarity for the victims of the attack.

Social media users have used the hashtag #jesuischarlie to show solidarity for the victims of the shooting, with the Charlie Hebdo website also using the image as its masthead.



...18yrs old, barely more than a child...this is nothing to do with any religion at all, it's conditioning/brainwashing and perpetrating hate because hate has to try to give itself a cause..it has to try and justify it's murderous actions..there is no religion on this earth that trains assassins from children and closing borders etc will never stop hate from spreading it's seed, hate is not an immigration issue..nor will trying to fight it with more hate stop it either because all it does is multiply it, which is exactly what it wants/it's what it thrives on...

[Brother Leon]

Originally Posted by Ninastar

It is a shame... but instead of playing the victim, what a lot of Islamic people need to do is agree that these people give them a bad name. They need to agree that we have to do something about it. But making trends and posting things on the internet like 'not all muslims are bad!!!!!!1111' doesn't help. Anyone with a brain knows that all muslims arent bad. They need to pay respects to the victims and not complain and turn it into a sob story.

(I'm on about internet warriors... not the standard Muslim person. Every Muslim person I know IRL has mentioned how awful this is)

Pretty much anywhere you look, you will find Muslims condemning them. It is also Muslim Men and Women mostly who are battling ISIS face to face and on foot every single day. I think it's Abit rich for us in England to say "Oh, you should condemn them and do more instead of making it a sob story" when they are the ones fighting the spread of isis and we are just posting RIP messages.

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In an unrelated note, it is annoying how the main victims of Islamist extremism does happen to be Muslims themselves, but it's only a huge issue that needs every Muslim to have to come out and say it is wrong when it occurs in a western nation and it is made out like it is only a problem for the people of Europe/USA.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Brother Leon

Pretty much anywhere you look, you will find Muslims condemning them. It is also Muslim Men and Women mostly who are battling ISIS face to face and on foot every single day. I think it's Abit rich for us in England to say "Oh, you should condemn them and do more instead of making it a sob story" when they are the ones fighting the spread of isis and we are just posting RIP messages.

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In an unrelated note, it is annoying how the main victims of Islamist extremism does happen to be Muslims themselves, but it's only a huge issue that needs every Muslim to have to come out and say it is wrong when it occurs in a western nation and it is made out like it is only a problem for the people of Europe/USA.

You're right, BL. Many victims of ISIL are Muslim. And many are not. And many Western Muslims condemn atrocities and support the people suffering. And many Western non-Muslims do the same. It's unfair to suggest that people only make a noise about this stuff when it happens in Europe or the US. People of all colours and creeds have been sickened by ISIL's actions in the Middle East and have not been backward in voicing that.

And now the fight is being brought to the streets of European capitals and really, no one is safe. But there is still a general reluctance for Muslims to come forward and condemn what the terrorists do, let alone pass on intelligence that could be helpful to the security services.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Livia

You're right, BL. Many victims of ISIL are Muslim. And many are not. And many Western Muslims condemn atrocities and support the people suffering. And many Western non-Muslims do the same. It's unfair to suggest that people only make a noise about this stuff when it happens in Europe or the US. People of all colours and creeds have been sickened by ISIL's actions in the Middle East and have not been backward in voicing that.

And now the fight is being brought to the streets of European capitals and really, no one is safe. But there is still a general reluctance for Muslims to come forward and condemn what the terrorists do, let alone pass on intelligence that could be helpful to the security services.

Thank you... once again, I've agreed with everything you've said today... All hail Queen Livia