[Beso]

her body is awful, all pointy and saggy in bits..her nose as well omg, the woman needs to stop pointing at gingers etc with a beak like that...and she's probably 53 in real life.

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

No you don't, because if everyone did that the world would be a nasty, hostile, unfriendly, rude, aggressive, intolerant place (or a whole lot more so than it already is) "Brutal Honesty" is not something to be applauded, you have to be tactful to get your point across to people without alienating them, tactful honesty and a caring attitude is where intelligence comes into it and where change will happen

And the world would be an extremely boring place if these kinds of personalities didn't exist, it works both ways. I think it's actually very refreshing and admirable to see somebody with a careless attitude who has basically no limits when it comes to honesty. It's not always a bad thing. I'm sure she could be a nightmare to live with, but since we're watching her and not inside the house, I'll happily take that.

[Jamesy]

I would respect Katie and her views if her views were actually natural. But they're not, she purposely says controversial things, while some of her thoughts will be true most of it is put on so she can continue to get media coverage and money from it. Hard to respect someone who is fake in that kind of way.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

And the world would be an extremely boring place if these kinds of personalities didn't exist, it works both ways. I think it's actually very refreshing and admirable to see somebody with a careless attitude who has basically no limits when it comes to honesty. It's not always a bad thing. I'm sure she could be a nightmare to live with, but since we're watching her and not inside the house, I'll happily take that.

Sure we all have different personalities and Katie is a rude, vile ****, unfortunately there will always be ***** in the world, this whole thing of "oh look how refreshing her honesty is" is complete bull**** tbh, if that logic was applied to the real world I don't think you'd be saying the same thing. You think it'd be ok in school for example for one kid to call another a disgusting fat pig because "they're just being honest"? Or in the work place, one employee calling another an ugly bitch cos she has red hair? No, that would be bullying, what Katie is doing is exactly the same but on a different platform

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I would respect Katie and her views if her views were actually natural. But they're not, she purposely says controversial things, while some of her thoughts will be true most of it is put on so she can continue to get media coverage and money from it. Hard to respect someone who is fake in that kind of way.

Who is anyone to actually question her views and opinions though? Do I think she exaggerates at times? Possibly, but I have no reason to doubt anything she says. I also don't think all of her views and outlook on life are always that 'controversial', it's more saying what others are too afraid to publicize.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Who is anyone to actually question her views and opinions though? Do I think she exaggerates at times? Possibly, but I have no reason to doubt anything she says. I also don't think all of her views and outlook on life are always that 'controversial', it's more saying what others are too afraid to publicize.

come on, she is forced to be brutal and controversial because that's what sells mags etc..do you honestly believe she really thinks all that stuff about gingers and that?

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Sure we all have different personalities and Katie is a rude, vile ****, unfortunately there will always be ***** in the world, this whole thing of "oh look how refreshing her honesty is" is complete bull**** tbh, if that logic was applied to the real world I don't think you'd be saying the same thing. You think it'd be ok in school for example for one kid to call another a disgusting fat pig because "they're just being honest"? Or in the work place, one employee calling another an ugly bitch cos she has red hair? No, that would be bullying, what Katie is doing is exactly the same but on a different platform

I think you've taken this a little out of context - I don't think she randomly goes around saying people are ugly, fat or disrespecting anybody. From what I can see she is simply voicing her opinions (she doesn't find red hair attractive, she thinks tattoos are awful, she thinks unemployed people are lazy) but people only take offense because she is extremely vocal about it. Also, judging by her fat story, she wants people to be aware of their size and help them do something about it before it goes too far (in the case of children especially, their parents should be notified etc instead of not addressing the problems). Plus the amount of abuse Katie receives herself on a daily basis could technically be 'bullying' if you put it like that.

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by parmnion

come on, she is forced to be brutal and controversial because that's what sells mags etc..do you honestly believe she really thinks all that stuff about gingers and that?

Nobody really knows what thoughts are going around in any other person's mind. As I said, I do expect she plays on these things for more media attention (as many famous people do in many different ways), but I also won't just disregard anything she 'says' because it's an unpopular opinion.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Nobody really knows what thoughts are going around in any other person's mind. As I said, I do expect she plays on these things for more media attention (as many famous people do in many different ways), but I also won't just disregard anything she 'says' because it's an unpopular opinion.

then you are part of the problem as well, buying anything that she is featured in, in my opinion is justifying the belittlling of others.

Take her slant on alexander last night regarding the getting his clothes out a charity shop or skip whichever one it was.

Does she ever stop and think that maybe the person did because that person can only afford to buy clothes from there.

In that one sentenced she has belittled and degraded anyone unfortunate enough to have to do this.

she's a **** nothing more nothing less.

[coffee]

I think she looks good, I even said to my mum last night when Katie came on "wow! I didn't know she was kinda young and pretty! I thought she was meant to be like a wrinkled old hag!"

[thinkingoutloud]

Originally Posted by parmnion

then you are part of the problem as well, buying anything that she is featured in, in my opinion is justifying the belittlling of others.

Take her slant on alexander last night regarding the getting his clothes out a charity shop or skip whichever one it was.

Does she ever stop and think that maybe the person did because that person can only afford to buy clothes from there.

In that one sentenced she has belittled and degraded anyone unfortunate enough to have to do this.

she's a **** nothing more nothing less.

If we were fully aware of the risk that every little thing we say could offend others, we'd never speak without being overly cautious. I'm sure people could find anything to complain about being 'offended' by these days.

My initial thoughts were that Alexander wasn't very dressed up for the occasion and you'd have thought he'd have made more effort. Katie just said what I was thinking with a little more feistiness and humour behind it. I laughed.

[Kizzy]

I don't think gaining and losing weight quickly did the skin on her face any favours, maybe Alicia can recommend someone?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Jamesy

I would respect Katie and her views if her views were actually natural. But they're not, she purposely says controversial things, while some of her thoughts will be true most of it is put on so she can continue to get media coverage and money from it. Hard to respect someone who is fake in that kind of way.

thats got me thinking now about Keith Lemon

maybe he isnt a horny twat with a sore arm

hang on what about Paul Daniels, what if he really cant do magic and its just an act

or maybe Craig Revel Horwood isnt a camp evil baddie out to be catty to all and sundry - no hang on he is that in real life

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

I think you've taken this a little out of context - I don't think she randomly goes around saying people are ugly, fat or disrespecting anybody. From what I can see she is simply voicing her opinions (she doesn't find red hair attractive, she thinks tattoos are awful, she thinks unemployed people are lazy) but people only take offense because she is extremely vocal about it. Also, judging by her fat story, she wants people to be aware of their size and help them do something about it before it goes too far (in the case of children especially, their parents should be notified etc instead of not addressing the problems). Plus the amount of abuse Katie receives herself on a daily basis could technically be 'bullying' if you put it like that.

The abuse Katie receives is a reaction to the disgusting things that she says so no I wouldn't class that as bullying at all, you cant spew the bile she does and not expect to suffer any repercussions for it. And I do echo Parminions thoughts about her being controversial to carve a little career for herself

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

Who is anyone to actually question her views and opinions though? Do I think she exaggerates at times? Possibly, but I have no reason to doubt anything she says. I also don't think all of her views and outlook on life are always that 'controversial', it's more saying what others are too afraid to publicize.

If she positions herself in the public limelight then anyone is entitled to question her opinions.

I disagree that she says what people are too afraid to say. Maybe one or two things she has although she makes very generalized sweeping comments that are aimed to outrage.

She is a clever woman, she knows saying certain things will get her in the papers, get her interviews, get her signed up for TV shows. Saying controversial things IS her career. To be fair she does it well and I admire her for making the most of the little time she will have in her life being able to make money this way.

[Jamesy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

thats got me thinking now about Keith Lemon

maybe he isnt a horny twat with a sore arm

hang on what about Paul Daniels, what if he really cant do magic and its just an act

or maybe Craig Revel Horwood isnt a camp evil baddie out to be catty to all and sundry - no hang on he is that in real life

[Jake.]

Would have said she was at least 40

[Beso]

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud

If we were fully aware of the risk that every little thing we say could offend others, we'd never speak without being overly cautious. I'm sure people could find anything to complain about being 'offended' by these days.

My initial thoughts were that Alexander wasn't very dressed up for the occasion and you'd have thought he'd have made more effort. Katie just said what I was thinking with a little more feistiness and humour behind it. I laughed.

dare I say that you are indeed a **** as well!

[Pink Pegasus]

I always thought she was very late 40's but if someone had told me she was 53, I would still have even believed that.
I find it very hard to believe she is 39. My older sister is close to mid 30's and looks about 20 years younger than Katie. So do all her friends.
Katie has a good slim figure I'll giver her that, but I'm wondering did she lie about her age when she started on television in that apprentice show and has to keep it up now? Even before the weight gain and loss thing I thought she was late 40's.

[Livia]

Katie Hopkins doesn't look 39. Maybe ten years ago or so, but not now...

[GiRTh]

No way is she 39. Add ten and you'll be closer to her real age.

[joeysteele]

Crumbs, she is only 39, I guess it must be all the bad,bigotry,prejudice and lack of any heart that makes her look so awful then and 'much older'.
Sour faced trout.

[Jarvio]

39, whichever, she is a ******!
My sister, who happens to be overweight and unemployed, was fuming at her. My sister aint lazy, she's fat because she's on medication, and regarding employment she has tried to get work like mad. Many people are unemployed and not lazy.