[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

No it isn't, that is of course if the person in question is any different from the way they were perceived beforehand.

I think Katie Hopkins has been disgusting in the house just like she is outside of it, Nadia obviously thinks along a similar line which is entirely up to her.

And that just proves Nadia is being true to herself then if she made her mind up before she knew who was being friends with who..

Why did it take NoNads hearing the boos and chants ,and getting nominated to decide KH wasn't such a bad one ?

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Josy from the outset se wanted to be the dude that killed off the bad girl and its failed. She is now reversing her opinions and tactics to suit her own aims and achieve a longer life in the house. She knows if she gets voted out now she will carry the Hoppo hatred till her dying day and that wont suit her tv career so she is in u turn mode now to save her own arse.

Over-analysing at it's finest.

She saw a different side to Hopkins in the task and is tired of all the tension between them, so she made peace. No more, no less.

All HMs would like to win, but i doubt ANY of them are as desperate as many make them out to be on here.

Too many people are blinded with adoration for their favourite HMs and cannot see the reality of the situation.

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Over-analysing at it's finest.

She saw a different side to Hopkins in the task and is tired of all the tension between them, so she made peace. No more, no less.

All HMs would like to win, but i doubt ANY of them are as desperate as many make them out to be on here.

Too many people are blinded with adoration for their favourite HMs and cannot see the reality of the situation.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Over-analysing at it's finest.

She saw a different side to Hopkins in the task and is tired of all the tension between them, so she made peace. No more, no less.

All HMs would like to win, but i doubt ANY of them are as desperate as many make them out to be on here.

Too many people are blinded with adoration for their favourite HMs and cannot see the reality of the situation.

Over analisis = my opinion, but in the cold light of day, I am nearer the mark than you are. I cant see Nadia changing her opinion on Katie based on her house profile, defo not, she still dislikes her but realises when she is beat.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

No it isn't, that is of course if the person in question is any different from the way they were perceived beforehand.

I think Katie Hopkins has been disgusting in the house just like she is outside of it, Nadia obviously thinks along a similar line which is entirely up to her.

And that just proves Nadia is being true to herself then if she made her mind up before she knew who was being friends with who..

She was the first to suggest Alicia was unintelligent, and now callum, michelle and cami all say the same... to be fair to katie I didn't think during the discussion on that katie was as mocking as she was initially and realises that it is a real issue not just an 'airhead' act.
Apart from that I think she's been great... most have been a nightmare but you expect big things of KH don't you?

I don't see the 'made her mind up' thing to be a positive tbh, it's not being true to yourself it's being closed minded and tactical.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Why did it take NoNads hearing the boos and chants ,and getting nominated to decide KH wasn't such a bad one ?

The only boos and chants were for Perez and they never found out who was nominated until after the task so I'm not really sure what you are aiming for with those points?

She said what she did because they were taking part in a task Chuff, lots of others were giving honest opinions too.

I think you are reading too much into it.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She was the first to suggest Alicia was unintelligent, and now callum, michelle and cami all say the same... to be fair to katie I didn't think during the discussion on that katie was as mocking as she was initially and realises that it is a real issue not just an 'airhead' act.
Apart from that I think she's been great... most have been a nightmare but you expect big things of KH don't you?

I don't see the 'made her mind up' thing to be a positive tbh, it's not being true to yourself it's being closed minded and tactical.

I disagree that it's tactical though, I think she's being true to herself in she can make her own decisions about someone regardless of how many friends they have in there..

I admire someone more for NOT jumping on a bandwagon and standing by their own opinion.

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

The only boos and chants were for Perez and they never found out who was nominated until after the task so I'm not really sure what you are aiming for with those points?

She said what she did because they were taking part in a task Chuff, lots of others were giving honest opinions too.

I think you are reading too much into it.

She heard the boos for the loonie she's attached at the hip to

[sampvt]

The crowds boos inferred that Perez was loosing and hence \Nadia had her ego dented. She must feel she is guilty by association and hence her u turn.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

She heard the boos for the loonie she's attached at the hip to

Ok but that has nothing to do with Katie Hopkins or what Nadia said in the task IMO

It also further proves that Nadia will stand by who she see's as friends regardless if they are liked or not

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

I disagree that it's tactical though, I think she's being true to herself in she can make her own decisions about someone regardless of how many friends they have in there..

I admire someone more for NOT jumping on a bandwagon and standing by their own opinion.

That's not the same as making up your mind about someone before you've spoken to them though, I remember the first convo on the first morning Katie was chatting quite openly and Nadia began a 'loose women' stylee character assassination interview...from then things were frosty.

[sampvt]

Nadia hated Hoopo before they entered the house. Even her loose women mates aluded to that fact so she had a plan which failed and the rest is black and white for us all to see. She is running scared of her tv furure.

[Creggle]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Cami is Cami. Her thoughts circle around her and what she needs to do to carve a living out of the only assets she has. She is fiery but savvy and knows that Callum is her ticket to the finals. Her Bikinis are designed to get the votes of the laptop and tissue brigade and her friendship with Hoopo is also designed to get her to the finals by hanging onto the shirt tail of a popular HM. She is anti nadia because her meal ticket is and her sexy antics appeal to some but not all.

Personally I like her a bit but she is an also ran for me but is proving to be a good HM because she is pretty street savvy and hates competition in her field, hence her hatred of Alicia. She can be a bit of a yes girl but in the main, she is an interesting stocking filler and a bit of eye candy for the boys but as an asset to the show, she remains a bit PFFT for me.

You should pay more attention to her, she's more than meets the eye

[Josy]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

That's not the same as making up your mind about someone before you've spoken to them though, I remember the first convo on the first morning Katie was chatting quite openly and Nadia began a 'loose women' stylee character assassination interview...from then things were frosty.

Why does she need to speak to her to know what she's like though?

I don't recall the conversation you are talking about.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Over analisis = my opinion, but in the cold light of day, I am nearer the mark than you are. I cant see Nadia changing her opinion on Katie based on her house profile, defo not, she still dislikes her but realises when she is beat.

Do you honestly feel Nadia is as pathetic and desperate to win as you made her out to be in that post? Really? 'Nearer the mark'? IMO, you're off the grid. I very much doubt that Nadia is as conniving and calculated as that, no one in that house is.

I agree that Nadia will not change her general opinion on Hopkins, and rightly so , but for the sake of house peace she has called a truce. I very much doubt you'll see her clinging on to Hopkins from now on in, but you'll most likely see a more civilised relationship between the two.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Josy

Why does she need to speak to her to know what she's like though?

I don't recall the conversation you are talking about.

A lot of celebs have a public and a personal persona, it's not unheard of.

It was the 1st morning a chat turned into a grilling, it was quite uncomfortable to watch as I remember.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Do you honestly feel Nadia is as pathetic and desperate to win as you made her out to be in that post? Really? 'Nearer the mark'? IMO, you're off the grid. I very much doubt that Nadia is as conniving and calculated as that, no one in that house is.

I agree that Nadia will not change her general opinion on Hopkins, and rightly so , but for the sake of house peace she has called a truce. I very much doubt you'll see her clinging on to Hopkins from now on in, but you'll most likely see a more civilised relationship between the two.

Nadia defo went in to win but now realises she cant so she is in damage limitation mode, simples.

[Patricia4]

Spot on Chuff and sampvt it makes you sick to hear Nadia but Katie wont take any notice of her.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Nadia defo went in to win but now realises she cant so she is in damage limitation mode, simples.

Why 'defo went in to win'?

What gave you that idea and made you come to that conclusion? Any rationality involved? Or is it simply based on her dislike for Hopkins?

[Kizzy]

It's a loose women competition... they all want to win like the ol lush denansty.

[Josy]

I don't think Nadia went in to win, I think she's only there to get paid and will be thankful to be out as soon as possible, she said herself on her VT she was doing BB cos she wanted a new kitchen

[Niamh.]

I agree Josy

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Why 'defo went in to win'?

What gave you that idea and made you come to that conclusion? Any rationality involved? Or is it simply based on her dislike for Hopkins?

Me thinks someone is trying to goad me into an argument. I have posted my feelings which are substantiated by facts so if you disagree then fine, but please debate if you want to as opposed to questioning my views. Lets hear your views if you want to enter the great debate.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

It's a loose women competition... they all want to win like the ol lush denansty.

Never a truer word has been spoken. She will have been coached to death by Welshy and friends. Wanting a kitchen is a poor excuse for a cloak of despair.

[Josy]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Me thinks someone is trying to goad me into an argument. I have posted my feelings which are substantiated by facts so if you disagree then fine, but please debate if you want to as opposed to questioning my views. Lets hear your views if you want to enter the great debate.

Oh come on Sam, it's a discussion where your views are obviously going to be questioned by people that disagree, accusing someone of trying to goad you when they are only taking part in a discussion is low.