[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Round of applause your better than me because you don't find her funny.

seriously Hopkins deals rationally and bluntly.

A lot of people don't like blunt

"Rationally" is the utter opposite of Hopkins' rants. I'm honestly bemused how anyone could apply that word to her and believe it themselves.

I don't mind blunt. I don't like cruel and small-minded. There's a difference.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

"Rationally" is the utter opposite of Hopkins' rants. I'm honestly bemused how anyone could apply that word to her and believe it themselves.

I don't mind blunt. I don't like cruel and small-minded. There's a difference.

example of her non rationality, cruelty and small-mindedness please? I can think of none

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

example of her non rationality, cruelty and small-mindedness please? I can think of none

Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

But do you have any examples of bad things she has done?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

But do you have any examples of bad things she has done?

We were discussing her comments. I was asked to provide examples of her comments being nasty, small-minded and irrational. I did that.

And making horrid comments like that is doing something bad as far as I'm concerned. Words can be harmful.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

We were discussing her comments. I was asked to provide examples of her comments being nasty, small-minded and irrational. I did that.

And making horrid comments like that is doing something bad as far as I'm concerned. Words can be harmful.

Fair enough, guess we will disagree then.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

NONE of which happened in the house.

NONE of it matters in the show, so why judge her on this.

You all advocate not judging people on there outside persona/reputation.

Many of you INSIST that its nothing to do with why you don't like her. Then you deliver this.

neext...

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

NONE of which happened in the house.

NONE of it matters in the show, so why judge her on this.

You all advocate not judging people on there outside persona/reputation.

Many of you INSIST that its nothing to do with why you don't like her. Then you deliver this.

neext...

Um, you asked me to provide examples of her comments that were nasty, small-minded and irrational. I did that. You asked me to bring them up, you can't have a go now I have.

And I never claimed to not judge her on her pre-BB behaviour, I'm very open about that. I also think she's a nasty bitch in the house too, though.

And as far as I'm concerned, it absolutely matters. For starters, she's in there because of the comments, so they must be relevant. Secondly, it all adds to the sort of person she is. You don't magically become someone else when you walk through the BB doors.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Um, you asked me to provide examples of her comments that were nasty, small-minded and irrational. I did that. You asked me to bring them up, you can't have a go now I have.

And I never claimed to not judge her on her pre-BB behaviour, I'm very open about that. I also think she's a nasty bitch in the house too, though.

And as far as I'm concerned, it absolutely matters. For starters, she's in there because of the comments, so they must be relevant. Secondly, it all adds to the sort of person she is. You don't magically become someone else when you walk through the BB doors.

I asked you provide samples of that behaviour in the house!

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

I asked you provide samples of that behaviour in the house!

Actually, you didn't specify "in the house" at all.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Some examples:

Mocking a seriously ill ebola patient and trying to kick up a panic about her being an "ebola bomb"? I fail to see any rationality there, yet I see plenty of cruelty. I know I'd be horrified if a loved one of mine was diagnosed with a highly deadly virus and saw them being made the subject of nasty jokes online.

Making jokes about the Glasgow helicopter crash? Seems pretty cruel to me.

Casually calling for more bombing of Palestine without even acknowledging the innocents caught up in these conflicts? Again, not at all rational and very cruel.

Stereotyping people of certain names / the overweight / the unemployed as all sharing the same, negative traits? No rationality here and no actual logic but a prime example of a tiny, nasty mind.

Well said, a good,accurate and strong post.

[Ridge]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

"Rationally" is the utter opposite of Hopkins' rants. I'm honestly bemused how anyone could apply that word to her and believe it themselves.

I don't mind blunt. I don't like cruel and small-minded. There's a difference.

The old saying. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" Biggins on CBBBOTS. Who by the way regards KH as a close friend, said KH is actually a generous kind funny person. He said her media persona is an act. She has a family to feed. Controversy sells and attracts attention, Which proves by this. hread.

Drawn in just like a fish. HOOK, LINE AND SINKER

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

Well now here's your chance

Examples if that behaviour in the house

I don't need a "chance" to do anything, thanks. Katie is being careful to get the public on side in the house, as seen with her nauseating "I love the public" display. Not that her nasty self doesn't slip out now and again (a video posted today of her pulling faces as soon as Keith speaks, and then insulting him before storming off, for example).

Originally Posted by Ridge

The old saying. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" Biggins on CBBBOTS. Who by the way regards KH as a close friend, said KH is actually a generous kind funny person. He said her media persona is an act. She has a family to so, Controversy sells and attracts attention, Which proves by this. hread.

Just like fish. HOOK, LINE AND SINKER

I don't care what Biggins says, and I don't care if it's a "media persona". The things she says a no less awful because they're part of an "act" (though I still don't believe they are, and nothing her "friends" say will change that).

And so what if she "has a family?" Plenty of nasty people do. What's your point?

And we're discussing all of the housemates, are we not? Are we supposed to not discuss any negative traits of KH, or risk being mocked for it?

I've fallen for nothing "hook, line and sinker". This is a BB forum where we discuss the housemates, one of which is Katie Hopkins. It's really as simple as that.

[elliebrew]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I don't need a "chance" to do anything, thanks. Katie is being careful to get the public on side in the house, as seen with her nauseating "I love the public" display. Not that her nasty self doesn't slip out now and again (a video posted today of her pulling faces as soon as Keith speaks, and then insulting him before storming off, for example).



I don't care what Biggins says, and I don't care if it's a "media persona". The things she says a no less awful because they're part of an "act" (though I still don't believe they are, and nothing her "friends" say will change that).

And so what if she "has a family?" Plenty of nasty people do. What's your point?

And we're discussing all of the housemates, are we not? Are we supposed to not discuss any negative traits of KH, or risk being mocked for it?

I've fallen for nothing "hook, line and sinker". This is a BB forum where we discuss the housemates, one of which is Katie Hopkins. It's really as simple as that.

So cannot back up your argument with proof.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by elliebrew

So cannot back up your argument with proof.

I already "backed up my argument with proof", considering I was specifically referring to her pre-BB rants anyway. You only decided that we were discussing KH in the house only afterwards.

Her twitter rants are proof of the type of person she is. The fact that she bites her tongue a little bit more in the CBB house changes nothing about that (not that I think she's been an unfailingly nice person in the house, because she most definitely has not).

[sarah2020]

Originally Posted by Ridge

The old saying. "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me" Biggins on CBBBOTS. Who by the way regards KH as a close friend, said KH is actually a generous kind funny person. He said her media persona is an act. She has a family to feed. Controversy sells and attracts attention, Which proves by this. hread.

Drawn in just like a fish. HOOK, LINE AND SINKER

ooh i dont know about that, I think she is naturally mean like that but she does have a good side and im sure friends and people she does admire would find her lovely. Either way she is entertaining to watch but we should we really back her to win? I say no because not everyone can handle sticks and stones and for many it can cause serious hurt and insecurity. She has hurt many with her words and a real lovely person would rather be poor than say and act the way she does for money.