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Old 02-02-2015, 04:15 PM #26
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Being somebody who is not a practicing catholic I don't take offence however I can see why some people like my mum and dad who are both practicing Catholics who go to church every Sunday would take offence from Fry's comments
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Well for me it's The Bible (but just the basics,not fanatically)
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Well for me it's The Bible (but just the basics,not fanatically)
Which one and which version?
Lots of people consider themselves Christian but because they read a different text it's led to 100s of years of fighting and death
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if katie hopkins said this, people would go mental
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None of us "know" it.

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Being somebody who is not a practicing catholic I don't take offence however I can see why some people like my mum and dad who are both practicing Catholics who go to church every Sunday would take offence from Fry's comments
Do they not realise people have different opinions to their own?
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if katie hopkins said this, people would go mental
First thing I thought of Chaos.
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Which one and which version?
Lots of people consider themselves Christian but because they read a different text it's led to 100s of years of fighting and death
King James version Kizzy,and yes it's just a book,it's people AGAIN who fight over it and cause the misery,not the religion as such.because we all think we know best.
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The ESV is so much better than the KJV

And more accurate

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First thing I thought of Chaos.
Glad you agree. Too many people choose whether something is offensive or not, all depending on who says it.
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The ESV is so much better than the KJV

And more accurate

and the saga continues for another 100 years...
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and the saga continues for another 100 years...


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if katie hopkins said this, people would go mental
She doesn't have the mental aptitude to put together something more than 3 sentences long, let alone any dignity.
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She doesn't have the mental aptitude to put together something more than 3 sentences long, let alone any dignity.
lol thats true, my point still stands though. Instead of people thinking 'omfg so true, legend!!!11' people would think 'omfg, she's disgusting, she has no right to say this!!111' blah blah blah
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lol thats true, my point still stands though. Instead of people thinking 'omfg so true, legend!!!11' people would think 'omfg, she's disgusting, she has no right to say this!!111' blah blah blah
Tbh, she probably wouldn't use any carefully considered views or opinions, she'd just spout bile like "Christians cause cancer!!!" or other extreme one liner to get her a headline.
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well yeah... I mean it's exactly the same as saying "people would be angry if Gary Glitter said this!!!!"... they're basically on the same level of disgusting worthlessness to society

I don't think it's fair to get annoyed with Stephen Fry for saying it when he was the one asked about it
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Tbh, she probably wouldn't use any carefully considered views or opinions, she'd just spout bile like "Christians cause cancer!!!" or other extreme one liner to get her a headline.

it's funny cos it's true
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well yeah... I mean it's exactly the same as saying "people would be angry if Gary Glitter said this!!!!"... they're basically on the same level of disgusting worthlessness to society

I don't think it's fair to get annoyed with Stephen Fry for saying it when he was the one asked about it
I think there's a slight difference between a pedo and a woman who says anything to cause controversy, but that's just my opinion... but yeah, I guess you're right about that.

All I'm saying is that most of the people who were commenting on this, would have said something completely the opposite if it was Katie Hopkins who said it.

I don't care either way, I just wanted to say my opinion. I don't care what people think of god/jesus/allah/satan, whatever, but I hate when people think something is okay, but would totally change their tune if someone they hate said it.
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lmao, probably
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I think there's a slight difference between a pedo and a woman who says anything to cause controversy, but that's just my opinion... but yeah, I guess you're right about that.

All I'm saying is that most of the people who were commenting on this, would have said something completely the opposite if it was Katie Hopkins who said it.

I don't care either way, I just wanted to say my opinion. I don't care what people think of god/jesus/allah/satan, whatever, but I hate when people think something is okay, but would totally change their tune if someone they hate said it.
I don't quite get what your saying here. Most people have their own views on religion and it's pretty much the same in this thread as it is in any thread on religion. The fact that stephen fry has said it doesn't really mean anything to me....my thoughts would be the same if anyone said it.
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But he gave us free will didn't he? it was up to us what we did with it,sadly some went the wrong way.
then why do religious people pray? if god just let's us create our own world based on our own decisions and he doesn't intervene, what is the point of praying?
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