[poppsywoppsy]

I don't agree.

She is there for the final week and they all seem to have the same problem with Keith's mild cleaning OCD, because they nominated him as well.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I don't agree.

She is there for the final week and they all seem to have the same problem with Keith's mild cleaning OCD, because they nominated him as well.

They may all have a problem with keith but that's not my point. The point is from what I'm reading on FB, the vast majority of people have gone off Katie because of her picking on Keith

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They may all have a problem with keith but that's not my point. The point is from what I'm reading on FB, the vast majority of people have gone off Katie because of her picking on Keith

Picking on Keith, he is a man for goodness sake, a man with his own demons inside. He has sat there on the fence for so long trying to be the good person but he isnt. It is about time that someone geed him up, why if someone has an opinion of him, should they keep quiet? KH says what many are thinking in that house, some do not want to upset the applecart for fear of coming across bad with the public. KH says it as she sees it he doesnt need babying. Too nice doesnt pay as it becomes patronising and that is what he has been.

Last time I looked KH was still top of the shop.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Picking on Keith, he is a man for goodness sake, a man with his own demons inside. He has sat there on the fence for so long trying to be the good person but he isnt. It is about time that someone geed him up, why if someone has an opinion of him, should they keep quiet? KH says what many are thinking in that house, some do not want to upset the applecart for fear of coming across bad with the public. KH says it as she sees it he doesnt need babying. Too nice doesnt pay as it becomes patronising and that is what he has been.

Last time I looked KH was still top of the shop.

Why do you say he's not a good person? what has he done?

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Picking on Keith, he is a man for goodness sake, a man with his own demons inside. He has sat there on the fence for so long trying to be the good person but he isnt. It is about time that someone geed him up, why if someone has an opinion of him, should they keep quiet? KH says what many are thinking in that house, some do not want to upset the applecart for fear of coming across bad with the public. KH says it as she sees it he doesnt need babying. Too nice doesnt pay as it becomes patronising and that is what he has been.

Last time I looked KH was still top of the shop.

How do you know he isn't? What is this based on? This might astound you but there are 'nice' people in the world as well you know. We aren't all malicious, bitter and backstabbing.

Just because someone persistently goads someone into having an argument doesn't necessarily mean you have brought out the 'real' side in them, it simply just means you've pissed them off enough for them to bite back.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Stevep

How do you know he isn't? What is this based on? This might astound you but there are 'nice' people in the world as well you know. We aren't all malicious, bitter and backstabbing.

Just because someone persistently goads someone into having an argument doesn't necessarily mean you have brought out the 'real' side in them, it simply just means you've pissed them off enough for them to bite back.

Exactly

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Stevep

How do you know he isn't? What is this based on? This might astound you but there are 'nice' people in the world as well you know. We aren't all malicious, bitter and backstabbing.

Just because someone persistently goads someone into having an argument doesn't necessarily mean you have brought out the 'real' side in them, it simply just means you've pissed them off enough for them to bite back.

It's hate, hate, hate all the way.
Katie H is unable to deal with nice.

[Jules2]

Originally Posted by Stevep

How do you know he isn't? What is this based on? This might astound you but there are 'nice' people in the world as well you know. We aren't all malicious, bitter and backstabbing.

Just because someone persistently goads someone into having an argument doesn't necessarily mean you have brought out the 'real' side in them, it simply just means you've pissed them off enough for them to bite back.

Whatever Steve, I have given my opinion, I personally do not trust Keith, he has chittered behind KH back the same as she has but people see him as the good one. He does it with a sickly smile but he still does it, he has problems.

I am not really knocking him but it annoys me when others say "picking on" they are each individual and each capable of standing up for themselves. Most tend to keep stum. He was against Perez but as soon as the little ijit comes down and says to Keith and KP oh you two were brilliant, it is no wonder that there is a bulk who stay together, he, P, has segregated them to a certain extent.

For the record I thought Keith made a brilliant taskmaster.

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Picking on Keith, he is a man for goodness sake, a man with his own demons inside. He has sat there on the fence for so long trying to be the good person but he isnt. It is about time that someone geed him up, why if someone has an opinion of him, should they keep quiet? KH says what many are thinking in that house, some do not want to upset the applecart for fear of coming across bad with the public. KH says it as she sees it he doesnt need babying. Too nice doesnt pay as it becomes patronising and that is what he has been.

Last time I looked KH was still top of the shop.

I'm so pleased you know what everyone is thinking and the intimacies of Keith's goodness. Great to know MysticJ is looking out for us all.

What is patronising is the woman you seem to like.

[susie q]

Originally Posted by Jules2

Picking on Keith, he is a man for goodness sake, a man with his own demons inside. He has sat there on the fence for so long trying to be the good person but he isnt. It is about time that someone geed him up, why if someone has an opinion of him, should they keep quiet? KH says what many are thinking in that house, some do not want to upset the applecart for fear of coming across bad with the public. KH says it as she sees it he doesnt need babying. Too nice doesnt pay as it becomes patronising and that is what he has been.

Last time I looked KH was still top of the shop.

Ok so Keith has a few faults, what human being doesnt, but his faults do not include public humiliation & belittling of people, unlike KH who gets of on it.

[Santa's NaughtiNess]

Originally Posted by susie q

Ok so Keith has a few faults, what human being doesnt, but his faults do not include public humiliation & belittling of people, unlike KH who gets of on it.

And that is why i can NEVER support her.

[poppsywoppsy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

They may all have a problem with keith but that's not my point. The point is from what I'm reading on FB, the vast majority of people have gone off Katie because of her picking on Keith

She hasn't picked on him, she has discussed his over cleaning obsession and bringing everything else back to his stories.

So has Calum, Cami Lee, Kav, Michelle

So she isn't the only one.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

She hasn't picked on him, she has discussed his over cleaning obsession and bringing everything else back to his stories.

So has Calum, Cami Lee, Kav, Michelle

So she isn't the only one.

I think she picks on him. She's always making snide comments about him to her friends and making faces when he says things. I see her picking on him

[jaxie]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

I think she picks on him. She's always making snide comments about him to her friends and making faces when he says things. I see her picking on him

I completely agree I've noticed it too. Without a doubt Kav, Calum and Michelle follow her lead. Kav particularly is the weasel of the group. Peter Pettigrew!

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by jaxie

I completely agree I've noticed it too. Without a doubt Kav, Calum and Michelle follow her lead. Kav particularly is the weasel of the group. Peter Pettigrew!

he so is!

[Ellen]

Katie H must have some amazing power if she can influence a few HM's opinions into her way of thinking I mean, its not like they were all grown up adults in there who can all think for themselves and make their own opinions is it

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I don't agree.

She is there for the final week and they all seem to have the same problem with Keith's mild cleaning OCD, because they nominated him as well.

But that's the HM's.
Outside the house I have seen with a few of my friends who supported her in the start to drift away from rooting for her.
I don't think she was as nasty as BB hoped she was going to be.
Now I find her just boring and doing/saying the same thing.
She should have stuck more to her image outside the house.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by poppsywoppsy

I don't agree.

She is there for the final week and they all seem to have the same problem with Keith's mild cleaning OCD, because they nominated him as well.

Hopkins is like a dictator, she has the ability through her intelligence to brainwash the gullible and weak in the house. If she can get an entire house hating on someone as innocent and nonthreatening as Alicia then she can do the same with Keith too.

Any rational individual can see that both Keith and Alicia don't have a single bad bone in their body but Katie has somehow managed to convince them otherwise. That's a skill in itself, which you got to applaud her for, but still, what a bitch.