[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I liked her before BB so she hasn't fooled this BB fan. Much to your dismay, some people just like her, get over it

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you like about her? And please don't say 'because she is honest'.

Do you find her behaviour acceptable? Particularly when she intentionally looks to offend and belittle individuals for no good reason? Is that an admirable trait? Is that what you are a fan of?

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you like about her? And please don't say 'because she is honest'.

Do you find her behaviour acceptable? Particularly when she intentionally looks to offend and belittle individuals for no good reason? Is that an admirable trait? Is that what you are a fan of?

Wow, that is a loaded way of asking a question. Surely you can't expect anyone to reply when the premise of the question is so bias and frankly dishonest.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

Wow, that is a loaded way of asking a question. Surely you can't expect anyone to reply when the premise of the question is so bias and frankly dishonest.

I'm trying to understand what people see in her, because for the life of me i just cannot see it. All i ever hear is 'real' and 'honest', which for me is another way of saying 'i like her because she's a bitch to people and admire such folk'.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Stevep

I'm trying to understand what people see in her, because for the life of me i just cannot see it. All i ever hear is 'real' and 'honest', which for me is another way of saying 'i like her because she's a bitch to people and admire such folk'.

I think she's honest in a diplomatic way. Yeah sometimes she can say things that are over the top but for the most part i think she's quite calm. We've also seen her apologise to people when they've confessed to being hurt by her words.
Unlike Katie P, Katie H can get her point across without shouting or calling people petty names like "old slag"
I don't think that makes her bitch.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I think she's honest in a diplomatic way. Yeah sometimes she can say things that are over the top but for the most part i think she's quite calm. We've also seen her apologise to people when they've confessed to being hurt by her words.
Unlike Katie P, Katie H can get her point across without shouting or calling people petty names like "old slag"
I don't think that makes her bitch.

Did you not feel she was harsh with Alicia? Why the constant need to call her 'thick'? Yes she may be being honest with her, and she probably is right to a degree, but do you feel it's correct to constantly humiliate and belittle someone because of their intelligence? Did you not find that to be unnecessarily cruel?

There is honesty and then there is being plain cruel.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Did you not feel she was harsh with Alicia? Why the constant need to call her 'thick'? Yes she may be being honest with her, and she probably is right to a degree, but do you feel it's correct to constantly humiliate and belittle someone because of their intelligence? Did you not find that to be unnecessarily cruel?

There is honesty and then there is being plain cruel.

I've had people belittle me because of my age/maturity (or lack of lol) on this very forum, i didn't find it cruel in the slightest and i didn't find it cruel when Katie H said it to Alicia.
IMO telling people a few home truths about their personality (intelligence would fall into that category i assume) is ok. If Alicia was really bothered about being thick, she has options, she could study.
Idk maybe i don't have a heart

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I've had people belittle me because of my age/maturity (or lack of lol) on this very forum, i didn't find it cruel in the slightest and i didn't find it cruel when Katie H said it to Alicia.
IMO telling people a few home truths about their personality (intelligence would fall into that category i assume) is ok. If Alicia was really bothered about being thick, she has options, she could study.
Idk maybe i don't have a heart

A few home truths i agree are on occasions necessary, but only when the end goal is to do good for that individual. I don't believe this was the case with Hopkins, for me she pointed out these flaws for entertainment purposes only, no more no less.

Perez said something recently that rings true, well i believe so anyway. When someone is vulnerable or lacking confidence for whatever reason, you don't look to break them down even more but you look to build them back up. Hopkins, for me took far too many cheap shots for no good reason at Alicia. But if you disagree then fair enough! lol, i guess we'll just have to agree to disagree.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Dollface

I've had people belittle me because of my age/maturity (or lack of lol) on this very forum, i didn't find it cruel in the slightest and i didn't find it cruel when Katie H said it to Alicia.
IMO telling people a few home truths about their personality (intelligence would fall into that category i assume) is ok. If Alicia was really bothered about being thick, she has options, she could study.
Idk maybe i don't have a heart

I believe anyone would take offence at being called thick, especially if that very deliberate put down was shared towards you by other interested parties. The word "thick" isn't advice and isn't helpful; its a very deliberate put down that was intentionally used in mockery and in KH case, a very public mockery.

Are you saying that if someone is thick, its their fault because they haven't educated themselves? I'm kind of baffled by the ignorance in your final sentence.

[Jack The Cat]

Originally Posted by Stevep

I'm trying to understand what people see in her, because for the life of me i just cannot see it. All i ever hear is 'real' and 'honest', which for me is another way of saying 'i like her because she's a bitch to people and admire such folk'.

Fair enough but if you read your original post asking why, you have phrased it in such a way as to exclude answers which don't fit your view.

With all due respect, I like KH because people can't understand why I do and it makes them angry that I don't agree with them.

Nothing to do with truth and honesty, those are totally subjective concepts.

[Stevep]

Originally Posted by Jack The Cat

Fair enough but if you read your original post asking why, you have phrased it in such a way as to exclude answers which don't fit your view.

With all due respect, I like KH because people can't understand why I do and it makes them angry that I don't agree with them.

Nothing to do with truth and honesty, those are totally subjective concepts.

Fair enough.

[Dollface]

Originally Posted by Stevep

Out of curiosity, what exactly do you like about her? And please don't say 'because she is honest'.

Do you find her behaviour acceptable? Particularly when she intentionally looks to offend and belittle individuals for no good reason? Is that an admirable trait? Is that what you are a fan of?

You already answered your own question.
Some people just like honesty.