[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by the truth

complete made up lies..........its nothing to do with the media.......the truth is radical islam is blowing innocent people up across the globe in random acts of horrific terrorism..........you actually dare to belittle the evil they do and pass it off as the fault of the media or other religions...we see through your lies. its radical islam and it needs to be targetted

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Hysterical ignorant nonsense.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Perfect example of what I'm talking about. Hysterical ignorant nonsense.

I don't agree at all. Dezzy. Here is his post in its entirety:

Originally Posted by the truth:
"complete made up lies..........its nothing to do with the media.......the truth is radical islam is blowing innocent people up across the globe in random acts of horrific terrorism..........you actually dare to belittle the evil they do and pass it off as the fault of the media or other religions...we see through your lies. its radical islam and it needs to be targetted"

There is no "hysterics" here - just stating of facts: There is no ignorance - but quite the reverse; knowledgeable and valid comment.There is no nonsense - only truth:

A) Radical Islamics are blowing up and murdering innocent people across the globe with sickening frequency.

B) If the above is true - which it irrefutably is - then the media can only report it.

C) He is careful to specify 'Radical' Islam and not all Islam, which is the truth.

D) The Media and/or other religions are not the cause of the atrocities perpetrated by these terrorists, so he is right to state as much.

I really don’t believe that we will progress matters on this thread (or any other) until some basic facts are first proposed, examined, and mutually accepted and agreed upon, so that once such facts are established, we do not all keep futilely moving around in argumentative circles.

It is, after all, banal for any of us to ask questions or make erroneous statements in a post, then have those questions legitimately answered or such misconceptions corrected in a response (with corroboration) only for the original poster to then ignore the response and pose the same questions and make the same erroneous statements in a subsequent post.

I am not advocating that anyone should defer to anyone else’s views, even if such views are more plausible and backed up by the superior evidence, but what I am saying, is that it would aid proper debate if we all did address points made in counter responses – even if at the end of any debate we just agree to amicably disagree.

For example; no one is stating that all Islam is responsible for these atrocities, or that the majority of peace-loving, moderate Muslims are, only that Islamac Fundamentalist Terrorists are. Yet post after post works from a false premise that people are blaming all Islam or all peace-loving moderate Muslims.

It gets us nowhere.