[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

We figured out in a thread yesterday that it is, perhaps surprisingly, Scientology.

Yes.... I agree looks like we've all been fooled an Scientology is actually the only true faith......

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't get your point. Are you saying that if I believe in an afterlife, I'm condemning others not of my faith?

Who can say what happens after death? No one, not really. My faith teaches me one thing, someone else's faith teaches them something else. Jesus was a Jew who said that he believed in the Laws of Moses. Does that mean that Christians all go to the same place as Jews? Who knows.

Yes... I am saying that at the core of every religion is the "we are right an you are wrong" factor, and none of us knows for sure what if anything happens after death, but the belief in it is an assertion that your belief is right over another, and I can't get on board that train of thought.

Originally Posted by Livia

The best I can offer you is, I believe in freedom for everyone to worship as they wish, or not worship if they wish, and live a happy, fulfilled life. I don't believe you have to be religious to do that.

I also believe in this same freedom, and I don't try to interfere in others beliefs, and I teach my kids tolerance and respect for all beliefs and ideologies... but I disagree with you that non-religious people are the driving force behind intolerance. Religions themselves are innately intolerant in their structure and strictures.

[Nedusa]

Well...... I'm impressed 52 posts in and nobody is at anybody's throat.

Probably gonna have to wait until the big hitters start posting....

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

Yes... I am saying that at the core of every religion is the "we are right an you are wrong" factor, and none of us knows for sure what if anything happens after death, but the belief in it is an assertion that your belief is right over another, and I can't get on board that train of thought.

"And lo, Jesus did ascend the steps and address his detractors, with the simplest of rebuttals.

Na na, na naaa na, Na-na-na-na-naaaah nah. Your religion is rubbish and mine is awesome.

And they saw that it was good."

[user104658]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well...... I'm impressed 52 posts in and nobody is at anybody's throat.

Probably gonna have to wait until the big hitters start posting....

I think the threads somewhat lighthearted first page has ruined any chance of fisticuffs .

I also suspect that TiBB is suffering from some major "religion-thread fatigue" at the moment

[waterhog]

has anyone heard of my religion ?

the religion of poetry ?

i swear by it.

[Marsh.]

Nedusa is scum!

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Didn't he turn out to be part of Prince Andrew's* paedo-gang though?

*

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Nedusa is scum!

I love you too......Marsh

[Kyle]

I am only operating thetan level 2 but obviously the teaching of L.Ron Hubbard are true and you all are suppressive persons.

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Well...... I'm impressed 52 posts in and nobody is at anybody's throat.

Probably gonna have to wait until the big hitters start posting....

Someone needs to throw out Pascal's Wager. That'll get things going.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by InOne

Someone needs to throw out Pascal's Wager. That'll get things going.

Nah, the wager is totally broken in betting terms, it advertises even odds but the real odds are well over 100/1. What a scam!

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Nah, the wager is totally broken in betting terms, it advertises even odds but the real odds are well over 100/1. What a scam!

They've been getting away with that one for years!

[user104658]

Originally Posted by InOne

They've been getting away with that one for years!

I'm going to blame Jews. I'm pretty sure Pascal's Wager is Christian but I'm blaming Jews anyway. It's a bandwagon thing. Jews made Jesus in the first place, amirite?

[kirklancaster]

Moved to new thread

[InOne]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

I'm going to blame Jews. I'm pretty sure Pascal's Wager is Christian but I'm blaming Jews anyway. It's a bandwagon thing. Jews made Jesus in the first place, amirite?

They made him and when he got a bit too big for his boots decided to throw him away.

[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Josy

Everyones own religion is true to them, that's all that matters.

This! My personal religion (even though people say it doesn't count as one) is humanism.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Mokkajava

If only it were true... but that is my point about religion. None of them are only personal, and all of them include a need to convert others to your point of view and to condemn those who are not of the same religion as you.

how many times has sometime tried to convert you to Christianity in the past decade Im guessing none...whereas atheists try to preach their anti Christian hatred and brainwash people with their doctrine of hate at far more regular intervals in public places too

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

CAPTAIN KIRK'S LOG - TIBB DATE 765,987.1

In the Year 18,980 B.T. (Before The Great Prophet TIBB) Our crew were assigned to InterStellar Investigatory Ship (ISIS) 6546. Our mission? To cruise the entire cosmos in search of intelligent life forms.

The first planet with signs of organic life which we encountered was one which we had classified as 3354 in the Sector 347 - a Solar System near the Andromeda Galaxy.

The creatures were organic but very primitive. and probably the weirdest life forms we had ever encountered. They were elusive and very difficult to capture, but we eventually caught one specimen and beamed it up into our laboratory.

This strange alien was less than 1.5 meters tall and was at first, extremely ferocious, then suddenly timid, as if it was in awe of us. It had heavily wrinkled, leathery brown skin and two deep set obsidian eyes beneath thick long red eyebrows and a shock of thick red hair. The creature had one arm on one side of its slender body and what can only be described as a rudimentary winding handle fashioned from some type of metal on the other side of its body.

The creature seemed to have male genitalia though it was really tiny and obscured by a weird type of pouch hanging from a belt around its waist.

The strangest feature though was its three huge lobed ears - one on the left side, one on the right side, and a FINAL FRONT EAR.

Then the creature looked directly at me and I said; "I am Kirk of the TIBB Federation. Who are you?" The creature spoke - in low guttural, quite aggressive tones which our green hulk of a Cyborg R. E-STAR (ARISTA - geddit?) translated:

"Him Leather Trumpet of Planet Earth. Yes. He Think You Are A God."

I replied "No, I am Kirk a Tibbian." But the creature persisted and R.E STAR translated: "Yes. He Is Sure. Kirk Is His God But No God Only Dawkins".

I raised my hand to halt the laughter from the crew and continued to communicate with our little friend, and it transpired that he came from a land on this planet called 'SCORT' - or as R.E. STAR said; "SCORTLAND". It was revealed that the alien only needed one arm because despite his superficial ferocity, he was half harmless, and that the strange metallic device on the other side of his body was, indeed an ancient winding crank, because Leather Trumpet was a cranky old 'winder upper' - apparently, he was famous among his people for this.

R.E. STAR also questioned him about the strange pouch covering his genitalia and it seemed that Leather Trumpet was some kind of Micro Biologist, because, he apparently used to keep some kind of Spore captive in the pouch but it must have escaped and fled at speed, because R.E. STAR said that the alien kept pointing to his pouch and saying; "MY SPORE RAN."

The strange little alien who had seemed so unfriendly at first soon endeared himself to us as we became used to his ways, and we studied him for over one Tibb Lunar Cycle, then it was time for us to let him go and return to our own world. We asked him where he wanted dropping off and I don't think he understood despite R.E. STAR's best efforts, and we ended up asking him where he would usually be right now if we had not captured him, but he kept referring to being trapped in boggy land - or as R.E. STAR probably misinterpreted it; "Stuck into MARSH".

Anyway, I parted company with the strange little primitive alien but not before patting his head and promising him that one day I would return and take him to my world - if he was good. As we blasted off I was sure that we'd never forget him.

CAPTAIN KIRK'S LOG: SUPPLEMENTAL - TIBB DATE 825,764.5

ISIS 5410 recently returned from 3354 in the Sector 347 of the Andromeda Galaxy - the strange world we visited all those years ago, and the Captain reports that the little alien Leather Trumpet is now the leader and Holy Prophet of the planet's main religion; KIRKISM, which worships a God who came down from the heavens in a fiery metal CABER and promised one day to return.

The sad part is that the prophet Leather Trumpet is carrying out mass slaughter of all those on his world who refuse to convert to Kirkism.

Naw TIBBERS - This is just me, Kirk having a larf - don't worry, nothing like this could ever happen here..........................Could it?

[Pete.]

Follow Godney

[user104658]

Originally Posted by the truth

how many times has sometime tried to convert you to Christianity in the past decade Im guessing none...whereas atheists try to preach their anti Christian hatred and brainwash people with their doctrine of hate at far more regular intervals in public places too

Jehovah's Witnesses are technically Christians so... the answer to this, for anyone, is clearly going to be "several million".

I've also been accosted by quite a few Mormons, though they tend to just grab you in the street rather than come to your door. I've seen a handful of Street Preachers in the center of Glasgow, too, wailing about damnation and the like. So I'd imagine all major cities have their share.

I can't say I've ever encountered anyone "preaching atheism in public", to be fair

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by waterhog

has anyone heard of my religion ?

the religion of poetry ?

i swear by it.

Religion no, faith yes.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by the truth

how many times has sometime tried to convert you to Christianity in the past decade Im guessing none...whereas atheists try to preach their anti Christian hatred and brainwash people with their doctrine of hate at far more regular intervals in public places too

OMG... well it started in elementary school with the me being the only child in my class that had never taken first communion up until I left the catholic system for public school in Secondary education...

Then when I was in secondary ed... a number of my friends attended a church youth group... so I went along at first and every time I attended I was given the "speech" about accepting Christ or go to hell etc.. etc..

My young mind fell victim and then it became not enough to be a believer but now we were indoctrinated into converting our friends and going out on missionary trips to save the others...

And now, I spend my time deflecting the inlaws from programming my children in this same manner by arming them with general facts about all religions and a sense of self awareness that they don't need a god to save them because they are not guilty, or automatically sinful just for breathing.

Aside from that.... yeah Jehovah's Witnesses

[Mokka]

Incidentally... I have never been a approached by an atheist with their views... but I have found out that some of my friends are atheists just by learning about them as people

also to add to my last post, my son's best friend for 8 years now comes from a family of Christians, and they would invite me over and out to church all the time until they realized I wasn't going to convert... then they lost our phone number

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Jehovah's Witnesses are technically Christians so... the answer to this, for anyone, is clearly going to be "several million".

I've also been accosted by quite a few Mormons, though they tend to just grab you in the street rather than come to your door. I've seen a handful of Street Preachers in the center of Glasgow, too, wailing about damnation and the like. So I'd imagine all major cities have their share.

I can't say I've ever encountered anyone "preaching atheism in public", to be fair

Jehovah's witnesses are like Christianity but far more right wing, they take the bible very seriously and translate it into literal terms.

They take their religion very seriously , it is 60 % Christianity , 30 % Judaism and 10% Delusional disorder.

[Mokka]

Originally Posted by Nedusa

Jehovah's witnesses are like Christianity but far more right wing, they take the bible very seriously and translate it into literal terms.

They take their religion very seriously , it is 60 % Christianity , 30 % Judaism and 10% Delusional disorder.

I am starting to thing Christianity in the UK is a far different thing to what it is here in N.A. It is all extremely right wing here and literal.