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Old 20-02-2015, 08:12 PM #1
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I think that their names, of Muslim origin
ethnicity, of Muslim origin
and location,area with a high Muslim population.

'says it all'.

Again, what does it say?
It says that in my opinion; Muslim girls of this age from a Muslim background with Muslim upbringing, with Islam as their religion, are more prone to fly off and become ISIS brides and join the 'cause' than say, Christian girls of this age from a Christian background with Christian upbringing, with Christianity as their religion, are. Or for that matter, Jewish children or Hindu children or Wiccan children.

Now you prove where I have 'tarred all Muslims with the extremist brush.

You are the one that said; "There are Muslim girls across the UK, what makes these different?" Thereby implying that ALL MUSLIM GIRLS WILL FLY OFF AND JOIN ISIS.

It was me who pointed out the differences between these girls and other Muslim girls.

So again; explain how you can justify saying that I am "tarring all Muslims with the extremist brush".
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It says that in my opinion; Muslim girls of this age from a Muslim background with Muslim upbringing, with Islam as their religion, are more prone to fly off and become ISIS brides and join the 'cause' than say, Christian girls of this age from a Christian background with Christian upbringing, with Christianity as their religion, are. Or for that matter, Jewish children or Hindu children or Wiccan children.

Now you prove where I have 'tarred all Muslims with the extremist brush.

You are the one that said; "There are Muslim girls across the UK, what makes these different?" Thereby implying that ALL MUSLIM GIRLS WILL FLY OFF AND JOIN ISIS.

It was me who pointed out the differences between these girls and other Muslim girls.

So again; explain how you can justify saying that I am "tarring all Muslims with the extremist brush".
Yes I gathered that from your initial post that I quoted.
You made an issue of where they came from, it wouldn't matter if they were from London or Leeds they would be as at risk of radicalisation. I implied nothing.
It has been known for converts to commit acts of terror too, which is why looking at a name, faith and location does not 'say it all' imo.
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Yes I gathered that from your initial post that I quoted.
You made an issue of where they came from, it wouldn't matter if they were from London or Leeds they would be as at risk of radicalisation. I implied nothing.
It has been known for converts to commit acts of terror too, which is why looking at a name, faith and location does not 'say it all' imo.
I didn't make an 'issue' of where they came from at all. I made a statement, in which their location was only relevant because it is a heavily populated Muslim area, which in conjunction with their Muslim names, was the reason why I formed the opinion which I did - a perfectly logical opinion formed without any trace of racism or xenophobia.

I never said that it would matter if they came from London or Leeds, so your comment is redundant, as is your statement that; "It has been known for converts to commit acts of terror too" - because it is something of which I am fully aware, but which is totally irrelevant in the context of these three girls being Muslim, from a Muslim background, with a Muslim upbringing and Islam already being their faith.

And you did imply by your statement that these girls were no different from other Muslim girls - as anyone actually reading this thread can ascertain for themselves.

I have civilly asked you this before and I will politely ask you again; will you please just ignore my posts and I will reciprocate in kind, because you are really making my time on here unpleasant by your constant sniping and ludicrous misrepresentations of what I am saying and transparent attempts to draw me into arguments.

Thank you in anticipation.

Footnote: This is the third thread now where other members have stated opinions the same as mine, similar to mine, or more extreme than mine, yet you ignore them and choose to 'take issue' with me.

'Transparent' and 'Glass' says it all really.
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I didn't make an 'issue' of where they came from at all. I made a statement, in which their location was only relevant because it is a heavily populated Muslim area, which in conjunction with their Muslim names, was the reason why I formed the opinion which I did - a perfectly logical opinion formed without any trace of racism or xenophobia.

I never said that it would matter if they came from London or Leeds, so your comment is redundant, as is your statement that; "It has been known for converts to commit acts of terror too" - because it is something of which I am fully aware, but which is totally irrelevant in the context of these three girls being Muslim, from a Muslim background, with a Muslim upbringing and Islam already being their faith.

And you did imply by your statement that these girls were no different from other Muslim girls - as anyone actually reading this thread can ascertain for themselves.

I have civilly asked you this before and I will politely ask you again; will you please just ignore my posts and I will reciprocate in kind, because you are really making my time on here unpleasant by your constant sniping and ludicrous misrepresentations of what I am saying and transparent attempts to draw me into arguments.

Thank you in anticipation.

Footnote: This is the third thread now where other members have stated opinions the same as mine, similar to mine, or more extreme than mine, yet you ignore them and choose to 'take issue' with me.

'Transparent' and 'Glass' says it all really.
I'll comment where I see fit, I asked you to clarify your post is all, it wasn't personal and would've asked anyone.
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I'll comment where I see fit, I asked you to clarify your post is all, it wasn't personal and would've asked anyone.
Yeah - sure you would have "asked anyone". Anyway, you're right to "comment" where you see fit, and I will also comment whenever I see fit to - as in whenever anyone banally and deceitfully misrepresents what I have said for no other reason than to attack and cause unnecessary argument. Bye.
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