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Old 05-03-2015, 02:02 PM #1
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Religious people ...In Ireland?... nah.

I'm surprised this hasn't happened before, if his thinking is due to his religious beliefs then he's entitled I guess.
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Religious people ...In Ireland?... nah.

I'm surprised this hasn't happened before, if his thinking is due to his religious beliefs then he's entitled I guess.
People in Ireland aren't that religious anymore really, the change in such a short few years has been massive.

What about if his religious beliefs told him that he couldn't do business with black people, would you think he'd still be entitled?
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People in Ireland aren't that religious anymore really, the change in such a short few years has been massive.

What about if his religious beliefs told him that he couldn't do business with black people, would you think he'd still be entitled?

Does the bible say that, if not it's not really comparable is it?
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Does the bible say that, if not it's not really comparable is it?
So basically no you would think discriminating against a black person would be wrong then but gay people are fair game? Interesting
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So basically no you would think discriminating against a black person would be wrong then but gay people are fair game? Interesting
Nope never said that.
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I don't see why someone should get shtick for their religious beliefs. Some of the comments on here are terrible... if they'd been directed at gay people there would, quite rightly, be hell on.
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I don't see why someone should get shtick for their religious beliefs. Some of the comments on here are terrible... if they'd been directed at gay people there would, quite rightly, be hell on.
I disagree. The man is a disgrace, discriminating against and humiliating that man because of who he chooses to spend his life with.
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I disagree. The man is a disgrace, discriminating against and humiliating that man because of who he chooses to spend his life with.
And then the man going off and making a massive issue out of it that could end the bloke's business and put people out of work.

And I say this as someone who believes you should live your life in the happiest way possible, whoever you are, whatever your sexual pursuasian... and whether or not you're a Christian.
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And then the man going off and making a massive issue out of it that could end the bloke's business and put people out of work.

And I say this as someone who believes you should live your life in the happiest way possible, whoever you are, whatever your sexual pursuasian... and whether or not you're a Christian.
By telling the truth about how he was treated? That sounds like victim blaming
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I don't see why someone should get shtick for their religious beliefs. Some of the comments on here are terrible... if they'd been directed at gay people there would, quite rightly, be hell on.
No, if it were a gay couple that refused to print cards for an interracial couple because of their strong religious beliefs, the comments would be exactly the same.
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As much as it was a ****ty thing for him to do.. in the grand scheme of things, it's his business, so who can choose to serve and not serve whoever he sees fit, his beliefs are his and he's fully entitled to have them.
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As much as it was a ****ty thing for him to do.. in the grand scheme of things, it's his business, so who can choose to serve and not serve whoever he sees fit, his beliefs are his and he's fully entitled to have them.
I agree with this entirely.
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this is why we have laws however to stop people just making up rules as they see fit
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this is why we have laws however to stop people just making up rules as they see fit
We don't have those laws... We have hate laws they have NOTHING to do with religious interpretation.
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The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....
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The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....
Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already
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Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already
Do the anti-discrimination laws apply to Christians, or... not.
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Do the anti-discrimination laws apply to Christians, or... not.
Sure but Christians don't have special rules just because they're Christians, they'll have to follow the rules like every other person
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So gay people's rights outweigh Christians' right to religious freedom?
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Well maybe not, there are anti discrimination laws over here and this guy had been a customer of his for 4 years already
If they don't want to do business with that person then that is their choice, everything else is just supposition.

You cannot be forced to give work to people because they are Gay...lol
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The printing firm can decide who they do business with, it's as simple as that. It's nobody else's business how they decide on their customers.

Another non story blown up by the "gay brigade"....
Now this... this is prejudice.

No religious reasoning just an example of pure bigotry.
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Now this... this is prejudice.

No religious reasoning just an example of pure bigotry.
Oh for goodness sake get off your Politically correct high horse...

People make choices what they do... and if they don't want to give work to someone for whatever reason that is their choice

Plain and simple

Enough of the bigotry nonsense
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Oh for goodness sake get off your Politically correct high horse...

People make choices what they do... and if they don't want to give work to someone for whatever reason that is their choice

Plain and simple

Enough of the bigotry nonsense
Whatever twisted perception anyone has is of no concern to me, this relates to religion, political correctness does come into it as here politics and religion clash...
As much as I an against religion if that's how someone lives their life I'm for that, not sure if you noticed that.
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