[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

You just contradicted yourself, you said people with religious views can think what they like.. and now they can't as they'll be labeled homophobic.

How is that contradictory? They can think what they like obviously it's their own heads lol that doesn't mean that those thoughts aren't homophobic

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

How is that contradictory? They can think what they like obviously it's their own heads lol that doesn't mean that those thoughts aren't homophobic

I think it's a given that you feel that his religious interpretation is homophobic, the fact is he's done nothing illegal it's his view and his right to work for who he likes based on this.
In effect he's done nothing wrong.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I think it's a given that you feel that his religious interpretation is homophobic, the fact is he's done nothing illegal it's his view and his right to work for who he likes based on this.
In effect he's done nothing wrong.

But he has done something illegal according to Irish law imo

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Equality_FAQ
1. What discrimination is unlawful under Irish equality legislation?

Irish equality legislation prohibits direct and indirect discrimination in the area of employment and in the supply of and access to goods, facilities and services, on any of the following nine grounds - gender, marital status, family status, sexual orientation, religion, age, disability, race or membership of the Traveller community.

Discrimination in the area of employment is prohibited by the Employment Equality Acts 1998 and 2004. The Acts cover all aspects of work including recruitment and promotion, the right to equal pay, conditions of employment, training or experience. If you are an employee, or trying to get a job and you feel you are discriminated against unlawfully, on any of the nine prohibited grounds, you can make a claim under these Acts.

Discrimination outside the workplace is prohibited by the Equal Status Acts 2000 to 2004. If you are trying to access goods or services and you feel you are discriminated against unlawfully, on any of the nine prohibited grounds, you can make a claim under these Acts. They cover many different goods and services, including access to a place, facilities for banking, entertainment, cultural activities or transport, professional or trade services, health services, access to education and accommodation.

The Equality Authority is tasked with providing information and advice to any person who feels that he or she has been discriminated against on any of the grounds covered in the equality legislation, whether in an employment or non-employment area.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

But he has done something illegal according to Irish law imo

http://www.inis.gov.ie/en/JELR/Pages/Equality_FAQ
1. What discrimination is unlawful under Irish equality legislation?

Irish equality legislation prohibits direct and indirect discrimination in the area of employment and in the supply of and access to goods, facilities and services, on any of the following nine grounds - gender, marital status, family status, sexual orientation, religion, age, disability, race or membership of the Traveller community.

Discrimination in the area of employment is prohibited by the Employment Equality Acts 1998 and 2004. The Acts cover all aspects of work including recruitment and promotion, the right to equal pay, conditions of employment, training or experience. If you are an employee, or trying to get a job and you feel you are discriminated against unlawfully, on any of the nine prohibited grounds, you can make a claim under these Acts.

Discrimination outside the workplace is prohibited by the Equal Status Acts 2000 to 2004. If you are trying to access goods or services and you feel you are discriminated against unlawfully, on any of the nine prohibited grounds, you can make a claim under these Acts. They cover many different goods and services, including access to a place, facilities for banking, entertainment, cultural activities or transport, professional or trade services, health services, access to education and accommodation.

The Equality Authority is tasked with providing information and advice to any person who feels that he or she has been discriminated against on any of the grounds covered in the equality legislation, whether in an employment or non-employment area.

Depends on whether you view sexual orientation or religious belief as a motivating factor....

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Depends on whether you view sexual orientation or religious belief as a motivating factor....

Well not really, the law says prohibits direct and indirect discrimination in the area of employment and in the supply of and access to goods, facilities and services the only person who was refused a service was the gay man who was told by the printer that it was because he was gay, seems quite clear to me

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Well not really, the law says prohibits direct and indirect discrimination in the area of employment and in the supply of and access to goods, facilities and services the only person who was refused a service was the gay man who was told by the printer that it was because he was gay, seems quite clear to me

Well yes really, I'm sure that would refer to a third party and not as it's you personally that is the service, and your religious beliefs that create the issue.
I can't see it as that black or white.

[ChristmasNeeve]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Well yes really, I'm sure that would refer to a third party and not as it's you personally that is the service, and your religious beliefs that create the issue.
I can't see it as that black or white.

How do you mean a third party?