[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Most disturbed people are the product of their upbringing. That expression does not come from nowhere, it comes from fact. Ask any psychologist.
You are as blinkered as you accuse me of being.

As another poster has pointed out, do you really think his parents didn't know their own son, even with the mask. I would be surprised if they don't condone and support his actions. He is clearly a deeply disturbed individual - how could any decent parent fail to recognise that. More likely they are part of the problem.

By blaming his family you're just turning them into a scapegoat for his actions. You are absolving this man of his guilt by even thinking of blaming anyone but him for his own actions.

Sometimes people are just bastards even if they have a good upbringing, Parents can only do so much, not every psychopath has a tragic backstory. His family is not responsible for his actions, he is not a child. He's a grown ass monster that committed these atrocities of his own accord.

[Niamh.]

Is it just me who thinks he looks like Ali G in that photo with the cap on?

[arista]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Is it just me who thinks he looks like Ali G in that photo with the cap on?

Yes he did look like him



Its a old photo


The Walking DeadPunk is fatter face now

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Obviously parental and familial influence is always important but just as obviously there are going to be numerous other factors which can override the parental aspect. A lot of well meaning parents can end up despairing what their kids become despite their best efforts. Particularly in London you're going to be open to so many other influences and when you get to a certain age there's only so much control your parents can exert over your actions. Look at Michael Adebalajo: his family were a hard working Christian one - are they responsible for his conversion to extreme Islam? Would they be pleased about it? We don't really know anything about Emwazi's family. We know they reported him missing to the police four months before it was discovered he was in Syria - who's to say they haven't been in contact with the security services this whole time? It's impossible to speculate.

Yes, I agree with this

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by sassysocks

Most damaged/evil men are the product of their upbringing. In other words their families/parents are rarely innocent in their crimes. You can't defend the undefendable. Honestly I don't know whether to laugh or cry at such naivity!

I do not think we can blame the parents for their sons obvious psycopathy, this is a serious mental affliction which is most definitely nature not nurture.

I do think however the parents have some serious questions to ask as they would certainly have been well aware of their sons growing psychopathic nature.

Psychopathy is very hard to mask especially in adolescence where the behaviour starts to become harder to suppress. Almost certainly they would have been aware of his strange cruel erractic behaviour and it is no credit to them that they decided to ignore his growing problems and turn a blind eye.

It beggars belief that this man did not receive medical help as a teenager and that his obvious psychopathic nature was allowed to be nutured and develop under the backdrop of radical religious extremism.

This radicalisation finally allowing this man's evil psychotic mindset to manifest itself in his brutal murderous actions.

[MTVN]

Andrew Neil is destroying the CAGE bloke on This Week right now, good stuff

[the truth]

im amazed the loony liberals haven't blamed all this on the daily mail, they usually do