[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock

Well of course like every Religion you have different sects and the followers ranging from mild believers to extreme believers.

However the representatives of the Islamic Religion are very extreme, and they're the only culture that I know of that seem to be obsessed with turning countries into an Islamic State (and I'm not just on about the UK) I don't have an issue with people that want to follow the Religion in piece, but I do have a problem with any Muslim that seems to want to force people into converting to Islam by blowing people up and destroying Christian Cities, killing people in the name of Islam.

They're like how Christians was in the Medieval Times, and the thing is no civil country should stand for that, this Religion needs to be brought up to date a little bit as they can't just live in wealthier countries and then attack it for having different beliefs to you.

If they don't like the none Muslim culture then don't live in those countries, it's as simple as that really to me.

Still assuming Muslims are a homogeneous group. It's not the case that it's a linear spectrum from mildly believing Muslims to extreme believing terrorists, its far more complicated than that. ISIS are only representative of their own fundamentalist, hardline version of Islam. They take pride in that, far more dogmatic than any other Islamist group before them, and will just as happily kill other Muslims who don't subscribe to their beliefs as they will Westerners - in fact they're liable to hate other Muslims more. Why do you see them as representatives of the Islamic Religion? Why not see, say, the Kurds as representative? They are overwhelmingly Muslim but are typically quite a liberal people and they are on the front lines fighting IS. Why not see the Indonesia as representative? An Islamic democracy. You talk about the Medieval times, well the medieval Muslim world saw some of the biggest scientific and cultural advances in human history. Why not see that as representative? Or we could just accept that it's actually pretty impossible for any one group in any one time to 'represent' Islam. It will always manifest itself in different ways. Yes IS are Muslims and we should appreciate that fact, but we should also appreciate that they represent no one but themselves.