[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

I mean millions will have to have Subtitles
as they can not stand Ed's Voice

I feel the same as to David Cameron, I don't like the tone or message that comes from his mouth either.

[arista]

The Guardian/ Telegraph/ YouTube
are now setting up a 7 leaders debate
Conservative and Labour have said yes
this would be this month
under the PM 's wishes

Ref : SkyNewsHD / Daily Politics BBC2 /LBC

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

The Guardian/ Telegraph/ YouTube
are now setting up a 7 leaders debate
Conservative and Labour have said yes
this would be this month
under the PM 's wishes

Ref : SkyNewsHD / Daily Politics BBC2 /LBC

Think the digital debates are only intending to include the Tories, Lib Dems, Labour, Greens and Ukip

[arista]

Also they would go out on ITV
as some biddies are not online

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Think the digital debates are only intending to include the Tories, Lib Dems, Labour, Greens and Ukip

Sure Lucky 5
or Lucky 7


All being sorted better than BBC/ofcom

[MTVN]

Miliband gets six questions as leader of the opposition at PMQs, uses them all on the election debates

[joeysteele]

I really am beginning to think they should just scrap the ideal of the debates altogether now.

All the leaders except for David Cameron have said they would do them in accordance with the formula set out from the broadcasters.

Since his screaming and moaning and jumping up and down as to only his way or no way then they should just drop them and not entertain him at all.
Having none will just leave an election campaign a little more like they used to be.

David Cameron made a great fuss of these debates and ahving them when opposition leader, even taunting Gordon Brown as to them.
Now he is really running scared and what a pathetic sight it is, his squirming as to them unless he gets all his own way.

Any debate is not worth a light,if it is held before all the manifesto releases of the parties, held outside of the actual 'official' campaign time is plain ridiculous.

All I will take from this,is that David Cameron willb e lying totally to the electorate in the eelction as he did in 2010.
If he is debating before the eelction campaign officially begins, then anything he says will not be worth the paper it may be written on.
To me is a con man, pure and simple and a dangerous one for the UK at that.He is after all the only PM to have come within an inch of presiding over the UK breaking up.

His judgements are horrendous, his word emans virtually nothing as to what he says to the electorate and he is not a man to be trsuted any longer with the high office as Prime Minister.
All other Prime Ministers well gone before him,must be turning in their graves at this procrastinating and smug man being in the office they held so respectfully and much more honourably.

Just scrap all the debates don't give him any platform at all I say.

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Miliband gets six questions as leader of the opposition at PMQs, uses them all on the election debates

Yes Labour Leader Pathetic

[arista]

"Just scrap all the debates don't give him any "

No Joey
The Guardian /Telegraph/ YouTube (and should be on ITV TV)
have done the Correct Date last week of this month

Feck Off
Ofcom/BBC
its not your deal now

[arista]

Lord Grade
would never empty chair threat

Ref : Live SkyNewsHD

[Kizzy]

Didn't Grade run the BBC in the 70s?

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by arista

Yes Labour Leader Pathetic

PMQs is the most disreputable thing about politics at this point in time,in my view,due to this PMs performances at it.

I have for a long time now, seen no point in Ed Miliband or anyone else, other than Conservative backbenchers that is,asking this particular Prime Minister anything at all.
I have never yet seen him answer a question put to him directly from Ed Miliband,in fact he asks questions of Ed Miliband when it is he himself who should be the one answering not asking.

I love politics but I won't even watch this now with anyone,I would as a voter be embarrassed to promote politics from this farce week after week.

I watched it 2 weeks ago with my Cousin and all she could say was, ''he is supposed to answer questions, when is he ever going to do so, what infantile nonsense this all is from grown men in government''.

Summed it up for me really,PMQs is the worst advertisement for politics and politicians too. It has just got worse and worse every year this man has been PM too as to questions being 'answered'.

I don't know why Ed Miliband just doesn't ask the same questions every week,he could have done so for years now and still been able to rightly claim he has not had a direct answer to anything at all.

Ed Miliband however made the best point as to the debates today at PMQs, when he said Cameron was scared of them because he lost to the Deputy PM, Nick Clegg,in them last time and knew he would likely lose in them again this time.

[MTVN]

Cameron is annoying how he goes completely off tangent like today he turns a question about the tv debates into rhetoric about Labour-SNP relations or starts reeling off a list of Tory successes. Bercow does try hard to keep order but he could also encourage people to stay on topic. Miliband never impresses me much either tbh, using up all 6 questions on the debate about debates is fairly stupid. PMQs in general has little substance to it and is fairly devoid of value if you actually want any meaningful debates over policies

[Kazanne]

If the debate is done properly it should only take once to get their messages across,so for me Cameron is right,no need to have several.

[Livia]

I don't remember this song-and-dance when Blair refused point blank do take part in a debate.

[arista]

Originally Posted by Livia

I don't remember this song-and-dance when Blair refused point blank do take part in a debate.

Yes John Major wanted it

Blair Refused Outright
and we know why
he was a Falsehood teller

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Didn't Grade run the BBC in the 70s?

That was his father, all you need is the right name to get the top jobs in TV it seems

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I really am beginning to think they should just scrap the ideal of the debates altogether now.

All the leaders except for David Cameron have said they would do them in accordance with the formula set out from the broadcasters.

Since his screaming and moaning and jumping up and down as to only his way or no way then they should just drop them and not entertain him at all.
Having none will just leave an election campaign a little more like they used to be.

David Cameron made a great fuss of these debates and ahving them when opposition leader, even taunting Gordon Brown as to them.
Now he is really running scared and what a pathetic sight it is, his squirming as to them unless he gets all his own way.

Any debate is not worth a light,if it is held before all the manifesto releases of the parties, held outside of the actual 'official' campaign time is plain ridiculous.

All I will take from this,is that David Cameron willb e lying totally to the electorate in the eelction as he did in 2010.
If he is debating before the eelction campaign officially begins, then anything he says will not be worth the paper it may be written on.
To me is a con man, pure and simple and a dangerous one for the UK at that.He is after all the only PM to have come within an inch of presiding over the UK breaking up.

His judgements are horrendous, his word emans virtually nothing as to what he says to the electorate and he is not a man to be trsuted any longer with the high office as Prime Minister.
All other Prime Ministers well gone before him,must be turning in their graves at this procrastinating and smug man being in the office they held so respectfully and much more honourably.

Just scrap all the debates don't give him any platform at all I say.

I'm not a fan of these sensationalised debates with instant polls on who performed best etc. I don't think Cameron has anything to worry about, and is hardly running scared, after all, people have had 4 years already to pick away at his performance, and how effective has that been?

If there is to be a debate, 1 is certainly sufficient. If they can't debate effectively in one debate, its not going to get any better in multiples. I'm personally sick of these Americanisations of our processes. Enough is enough.

Oh, one more point, its not for broadcasters to define how many debates there will be and who should attend them

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Didn't Grade run the BBC in the 70s?

At one point he did Run the BBC
and Ch4


Michael Grade

not his dad
some other poster said

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

That was his father, all you need is the right name to get the top jobs in TV it seems

You are going back to far



You are Wrong


Michael Grade now a Lord
did run the BBC
and Ch4

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

If the debate is done properly it should only take once to get their messages across,so for me Cameron is right,no need to have several.

I'd agree with that had he been more consistent himself on this issue.
The thing is when the shoe was on the other foot,David Cameron wanted to and was very happy to,then even taunted Gordon Brown to, to do them all in 2010.
For me rather hypocritical now to be only prepared to do any if he does, only his way.
I also dare bet, were he, Cameron, still of the view he had in 2010 but Ed Miliband was making this fuss as to them, he would be calling Miliband all the cowardly terms that have likely ever existed.

What was good for the goose should be good for the gander.

Quite frankly I would rather really have none, I didn't want them last time in 2010, I would rather hear from more spokespersons overall for the parties as to the policies and not just make any election a presidential thing just about the leaders.

I'd like to see more in depth questioning of the possible Health,Home, Foreign, Work and pensions,Defence and Education Ministers than just the leaders of parties.

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

At one point he did Run the BBC
and Ch4


Michael Grade

not his dad
some other poster said

The poster that I responded to was referring to the 1970's and that was his father, so I am right

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

The poster that I responded to was referring to the 1970's and that was his father, so I am right

she got the wrong years


You are STILL So Wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade


And Michael was his Nephew



Lew Grade was ITV (ATV) Never BBC

[bots]

Originally Posted by arista

she got the wrong years


You are STILL So Wrong
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lew_Grade

Lew Grade was ITV (ATV)

You can split hairs all you like, but the poster was referring to the 1970's and that was the time frame of his father, who was a top dog of a TV channel

[arista]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

You can split hairs all you like, but the poster was referring to the 1970's and that was the time frame of his father, who was a top dog of a TV channel

Bollocks
she said BBC


Not ATV