[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

that is not true kizzy unless you have links to where he has said so or a policy link?

'Nigel Farage has suggested that the NHS might have to be replaced by a system of private health insurance within 10 years.

The Ukip leader was forced to back down and declare his party’s support for a state-funded health service last November after a film emerged of him backing a switch to an insurance system. After Labour claimed that Ukip would privatise the NHS, he admitted he had not carried his Ukip colleagues with him.'


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9988904.html

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'Nigel Farage has suggested that the NHS might have to be replaced by a system of private health insurance within 10 years.

The Ukip leader was forced to back down and declare his party’s support for a state-funded health service last November after a film emerged of him backing a switch to an insurance system. After Labour claimed that Ukip would privatise the NHS, he admitted he had not carried his Ukip colleagues with him.'


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9988904.html

So... the operative words are that he was forced to back down and declare his party's support for a state-funded health service.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Livia

So... the operative words are that he was forced to back down and declare his party's support for a state-funded health service.

Did you look at the article?.... it went on.

'Now Mr Farage has revived the idea, saying his party will have to “return” to it after the May general election. In a BBC Radio 4 interview to be broadcast today, he said: “I triggered a debate within Ukip that was outright rejected by my colleagues, so I have to accept that. As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to.”

You can ignore it but the fact is he obviously has this as a plan.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Did you look at the article?.... it went on.

'Now Mr Farage has revived the idea, saying his party will have to “return” to it after the May general election. In a BBC Radio 4 interview to be broadcast today, he said: “I triggered a debate within Ukip that was outright rejected by my colleagues, so I have to accept that. As time goes on, this is a debate that we’re all going to have to return to.”

You can ignore it but the fact is he obviously has this as a plan.

I get where you are coming from Kizzy, Nigel Farage has backtracked as to the NHS several times and as you say, he was advocating private/health insurance systems at one time.

We have also seen how on a great number of occasions, where candidates for UKIP are way at odds with things Nigel Farage says anyway,hence his constant need to have to explain what the 'real' thinking is.

Were he to win a fair to good number of seats,also since it seems he can be made to backtrack rather easily, who really knows what he and the rest of UKIPs MPs would support or keep standing for as to the NHS.

It is that, the obscure detail he will not clearly spell out that leaves me very suspicious as to what UKIP overall,'not just him',would decide for the future of the NHS, given the chance.

From the confusion, he and his party have created as to it, I have my suspicions I would not like at all their plans for the NHS, so would not like to see them trusted with it at all,along with their dangerous, in my view, EU policy too.

I have my very firm view, the future of the NHS, for those who care about it, will not be safe in the Conservative party's hands,'never under David Cameron's leadership, or UKIPs now too,that is what I think.

I am pretty sure were the Lib Dems able to form a coalition govt; with Labour after May, then if Labour can still reverse any of the disastrous top down re-organisation doen in this parliament, that the Lib Dems would likely happily march into the lobby to vote to reverse what they supported over the last few years.

A Conservative majority govt; or a Conservative led govt; with UKIP support would probably see,in my view, the end of the NHS as to its founding principles.
With then in place good care for those able to finance same from wealth or health insurance
Followed with a basic healthcare for those most vulnerable.

I really see that happening under this hardline Conservative party,who I felt I couldn't belive and trust with the NHS in 2010 and have been shown to be right to have thought that way then too, and now also UKIP.
I trust neither of them and agree with you, there is a lot very unclear as to UKIP on this issue and a right to be very suspicious of them.

Voters who 'really' care about the NHS however,cannot say they weren't warned what could happen and likely will if they trust either or both of these 2 with the NHS in May.

Having said all that, I deplore these attacks on him and his family.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

'Nigel Farage has suggested that the NHS might have to be replaced by a system of private health insurance within 10 years.

The Ukip leader was forced to back down and declare his party’s support for a state-funded health service last November after a film emerged of him backing a switch to an insurance system. After Labour claimed that Ukip would privatise the NHS, he admitted he had not carried his Ukip colleagues with him.'


http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...e-9988904.html

With respect, I have analysed the linked article and your original statement would appear to be grossly exaggerated; "Don't forget this is the mad who thinks the NHS should be up to the highest bidder.."

The article does not suggest that at all -- in my opinion.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

With respect, I have analysed the linked article and your original statement would appear to be grossly exaggerated; "Don't forget this is the mad who thinks the NHS should be up to the highest bidder.."

The article does not suggest that at all -- in my opinion.

Oh you can argue the semantics of my post till you're blue in the face I'm not interested.
I was asked to provide proof of his view on the future of the NHS and I have, I'm drawing a line under this now.