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Old 25-03-2015, 02:13 PM #1
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The Tories set the trap brilliantly tbf and Miliband walked right into it, could tell he was thrown by that answer and never really recovered himself. Cameron was in good form today in general tbh, his best PMQs performance in a long time
But not good enough form to have a simple honest live one-to-one debate with Mr Miliband ???

Raucous shouting and snappy soundbites are no substitute for honest rational intelligent debate.

I wonder why Mr Cameron will not have one of those........
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But not good enough form to have a simple honest live one-to-one debate with Mr Miliband ???

Raucous shouting and snappy soundbites are no substitute for honest rational intelligent debate.

I wonder why Mr Cameron will not have one of those........
Because in such a debate, he would not have his cheering 'gang' of backbenchers cheering him on in those debates.
Like most cowards to manage anything of substance against a perceived possibly difficult or strong opponent,he would need his 'baying mob' behind him cheering every word he said and what he did.

I don't think however, I heard the PM actually say that vat would definitely not be also added to items it currently is not on.
That in itself would mean an extension of vat and therefore doesn't mean vat would be left unaltered by Cameron and Osborne,were, god forbid, they did get an overall majority.

Also as I said earlier, he said he had no plans to raise vat in 2010 but did anyway,then also extended it to some hot food sales too,such as cooked chicken in supermarkets for example.
Recall the pasty tax fiasco.

If vat is to be changed or extended, it is usually a Conservative govt; that will happily do it and never reduce it either,their history in govt; is littered with doing that,even after they said they wouldn't.

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