[JoshBB]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She did very well and he is very much like paxo... he gave Ed a very unfair stuffing.

That is very true, and I think despite that Ed came out better than Cameron did.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

That is very true, and I think despite that Ed came out better than Cameron did.

ed came out as shallow as usual. tbe clown over saw a labout government that created a society in which the gap between rich and poor was bigger than for 200 years. whilst Cameron is a wolf., milibland is a wolf in sheeps clothing. all hes about is champagn socialism, cover ups, government waste, jobs for the boys. he even made a total mess fo the vat question. why too \if milibland was for the working classes did he not ask Cameron...WILL YOU BRING VAT DOWN? vat is an enslavement tax on the working classes

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

ed came out as shallow as usual. tbe clown over saw a labout government that created a society in which the gap between rich and poor was bigger than for 200 years. whilst Cameron is a wolf., milibland is a wolf in sheeps clothing. all hes about is champagn socialism, cover ups, government waste, jobs for the boys. he even made a total mess fo the vat question. why too \if milibland was for the working classes did he not ask Cameron...WILL YOU BRING VAT DOWN? vat is an enslavement tax on the working classes

Well no one is likely ever going to bring vat down since it is one of the easiest and quickest ways of raising funds for the treasury.
The Labour party have not been a party that raises VAT however in govt;or even to extend it.
That has often been done by Conservative govts;

As for Ed Miliband overseeing the Labour govt; rather selective and unfair in my view.
He only became an MP in 2005,he wsn't there for nearly two thirds of its time in govt:

The only mess he made of the VAT question was to not follow it up with were the Conservatives planning to,if not to raise it,(which I still doubt and think they would),then were they planning to extend it to things currently free of VAT, like they did during this parliament.
I wonder what Cameron's answer would have been to that,if he even bothered to think about answering instead of going off on some other totally unrelated issue.

AS for covering up, he doesn't sound ike he is covering up things to me, he has said clearly he believes the Labour govt' was wrong not to regulated the Banks stronger, he stated very clearly in his interview, that Labour got immigration very wrong and he also stated the Iraq involvement was wrong to do too, especially with no plan for the consequences afterwards.
That is far from covering up, it ios refeshing to hear a leader say, this was wrong and that was wrong, and they were big issues he was saying were wrong too.

Ed Miliband would have been far from my choice as leader of the party but I was really impressed with his performance and I agree with the poll done in the days after the interviews, where those who saw the event, 49% felt he was honest in the interview to Cameron only being seen as to I think 28% honest.

Leaders of parties rarely, if ever, admit things were got wrong, he has said that as to 3 issues now and that is refreshing to hear, far from covering anything up, he is happy to acknowledge what was got wrong as well as praising what was done right.

The other thing I liked,was when he said he wanted to move Labour on from the 'new' Labour thing of Tony Blair.
Something else I agree with and again very honest of him too.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

Leaders of parties rarely, if ever, admit things were got wrong, he has said that as to 3 issues now and that is refreshing to hear, far from covering anything up, he is happy to acknowledge what was got wrong as well as praising what was done right.

Hmm, well he wasn't directly responsible for the previous labour governments, so its pretty easy to say they were wrong. It would be a different story entirely if we were reviewing his term in office.

I'm not a fan of any of the leaders of the parties at the moment, and they are all very mediocre in the general scheme of things. They don't have any fresh ideas, in fact, they really don't seem to have any ideas. Both the major parties are predicting that he deficit will be gone during the lifetime of the next government. They haven't a chance in hell of achieving that, so its impossible to take anything else they spout seriously

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Hmm, well he wasn't directly responsible for the previous labour governments, so its pretty easy to say they were wrong. It would be a different story entirely if we were reviewing his term in office.

I'm not a fan of any of the leaders of the parties at the moment, and they are all very mediocre in the general scheme of things. They don't have any fresh ideas, in fact, they really don't seem to have any ideas. Both the major parties are predicting that he deficit will be gone during the lifetime of the next government. They haven't a chance in hell of achieving that, so its impossible to take anything else they spout seriously

I couldn't agree more as to the leaders of the parties being poor,particularly the main 3.
As to the deficit, this present govt; said it would be a disaster if it was not totally cleared by 2014/5 and that it would be under their policies.
Well it isn't,it is at best half gone, thanks to them manipualting how it is now measured as opposed to how the deficit was measured in 2010.

There is no disaster because it isn't either.

I see no need to rush to do so,it could have been chipped way at for 15 to 20 years if necessary,then sparing some of the severe cuts that were brought in by this govt;

The thing is however, the one fact is that one of the 2 leaders, Cameron or Miliband have to be PM after may 7th.
Of the choice I know who I would now prefer by miles too.