[MTVN]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Its easy to take that view when your own country is 10 ntimes biugger than any other in the union etc etc

I would imagine if you lived in Wales , NI or Scotland your view may differ as it would if Scotland had 50 million and england 5.

It's easy because it's true: no one outside of Scotland can vote SNP, they do want to break up the Union, and they do think they should have more powers and more money. Not hard to see why that is disagreeable to English voters no matter how much we are portrayed as bloated overlords desperate to keep the poor Scots and Welsh down. IMO the Union won't survive more than another two decades, and just as important as the SNP and Plaid Cymru to that will be when England gets fed up of always being the villain of the play. If a Labour/SNP coalition is the result of the election there will be a hell of a lot of Englanders wishing that Scotland would have voted Yes after all.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

The EU for the UK has been an unmitigated disaster.

And what is the proposed alternative?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I agree, bit ironic that she wants each countries votes counted in referendum on Europe so they won't be dragged out when her party would have taken Scotland out of Europe had they won a yes vote

How is this, I thought she was totally against leaving the EU?

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...-eu-referendum

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's easy because it's true: no one outside of Scotland can vote SNP, they do want to break up the Union, and they do think they should have more powers and more money. Not hard to see why that is disagreeable to English voters no matter how much we are portrayed as bloated overlords desperate to keep the poor Scots and Welsh down. IMO the Union won't survive more than another two decades, and just as important as the SNP and Plaid Cymru to that will be when England gets fed up of always being the villain of the play. If a Labour/SNP coalition is the result of the election there will be a hell of a lot of Englanders wishing that Scotland would have voted Yes after all.

We are portrayed as bloated overlords as our current government are governing like bloated overlords.

[the truth]

in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by the truth

in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

he did but then he holds all the aces on the economy and its the economy that elections are won and lost on..

[billy123]

This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

[Kizzy]

Only yougov has cameron ahead.

[hijaxers]

Originally Posted by the truth

in the end its either Cameron or miliband and id say Cameron did a lot better.

Better - he made himself look like a complete clown

[bbollie99]

Natallie B won without a doubt, followed by Sturgent and Wood!

[the truth]

Originally Posted by hijaxers

Better - he made himself look like a complete clown

I agree miliband was embarrassing, he was a massive part of the wreckage of the last labour disaster, last night we saw his whole blarist persona his over coaching, his look to the question , turn to camera raise out the arm pointing with bent hand cue fake smile .....awful.

[arista]

Originally Posted by bbollie99

Natallie B won without a doubt, followed by Sturgent and Wood!

She was left alone alot
as she will not get any MP's
other than Caroline
predictions are saying

[the truth]

the green hippy was reading from notes a lot didn't look good

[Kizzy]

She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

[Samuel.]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

[JoshBB]

Leanne Wood for sure.

What the **** are you all on.. nigel farage. lmao. is this the annual kkk meetup?

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

yes those are points that the opponents to the tories should hammer on about....but miliband failed to bring it up. and natalie just briefly touched on..the treatment of ex soldiers is a sick joke....Cameron even rambled about charities helping them...FCKING charities? patronising twaddle...they should get compensation a fat pension and military hopsitals....fracking is another nightmare on the horizon. also no one mentioned the severn barrage which should have happened 30 years ago already , but its never too late

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

Yes but that 33 year old broke the rule
& had to be dragged out

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

The irony of your post is brilliant


I know better than all you idiots and you are all idiots for liking an idiot who thinks he knows it all

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

She made one great point, and that was to resopnd to the real winner Victoria Prosser who highlighted the plight of homeless ex military and fracking.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/...ctoria-prosser

no she embarrassed herself and did not respect democracy.

Dave dealt with her immature petulance well

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by bobnot

This forums ever increasing stupidity and growing racial intolerance never ceases to amaze.
Do people just hear Farages carefully worded quips or do they even attempt to think about the consequences of what he is actually saying?
This bigoted man is very dangerous. "Aww but he is just a mate from the pub" fcuk me and i thought Boris with his buffoon act was dangerous this **** leaves him in the dirt.

No need to lump all forum users in with the kippers

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

no she embarrassed herself and did not respect democracy.

Dave dealt with her immature petulance well

I don't feel she did, I was very proud of her impassioned stance on behalf of others... Many politicians should take note.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by JoshBB

Leanne Wood for sure.

What the **** are you all on.. nigel farage. lmao. is this the annual kkk meetup?

ah youre just after a milf lol

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Kirk sets off with a van load of sand and cement to begin rebuilding Hadrian's Wall.

Farage must have the same idea, his policies are built on pillars of sand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I don't feel she did, I was very proud of her impassioned stance on behalf of others... Many politicians should take note.

take note of what, thinking she is above the rules, ruining people's enjoyment, shouting like an oik. It was embarrassing. If she is so keen go and stand for a party and make a difference.