[Niamh.]

Jump on the slug

[Jessica.]

It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.

Facts have conclusive evidence.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I believe we have all lived before.

Well it certainly feels like you've been around forever.

[Ninastar]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It's not just a belief though, I know this for a fact, I know what is reality and what is fiction, I haven't mentioned anything about religion or reincarnation or whatever else it concerns, all I'm saying is that I know none of that exists, I'm not trying to offend anyone, I am just stating facts, not beliefs.

Again though, this is only your opinion. You don't know either and neither do I. The truth is we will never find out and opinions like this are just (and i hate using this word) prejudiced. You're implying that people who believe differently to you are dumb and don't have any sense, which is just wrong.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Chaos

Again though, this is only your opinion. You don't know either and neither do I. The truth is we will never find out and opinions like this are just (and i hate using this word) prejudiced. You're implying that people who believe differently to you are dumb and don't have any sense, which is just wrong.

I haven't called anyone dumb. The idea of reincarnation was invented by humans in a time where nobody was educated and everyone died young and was scared of death, of course people believed all kinds of things to make themselves feel better back then, it's probably a nice thing to believe in. I just can't find anything rational about it in modern day society.

I am just answering the question, why am I being called out for having a strong opinion on it. I haven't actually insulted someone personally, it's like saying anyone with common sense wouldn't smoke, some may be offended but nobody is going to cry themselves to sleep.

[Ninastar]

If you can't see how insulting you're being, then shame on you. I'm not repeating myself again and again.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

I am just answering the question, why am I being called out for having a strong opinion on it.

You're not. You're being called out for claiming your opinion is a fact.

There is a difference.

[Ninastar]

Thank you marsh.

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The energy inside our mothers womb fused us and our cells began multiplying, eventually our hearts matured enough to begin beating and our brains matured enough to give us senses and movement. Every object, even the most still, has potential energy, it can't be created or destroyed, but everything has some form of energy already, even if only potential. That is nothing to do with this anyway, it's a strange argument.

Before those cells are encouraged to multiply, energy has to be drawn in from outside and those fundamental elements have to be drawn in and delivered by the umbilical blood. We put the energy into the blood by eating and breathing. We are borrowing our energy from outside sources.

IMO we don't get reincarnated from one whole being to another but are made up from millions of different things, so although I don't believe in reincarnation in the truest sense of the word; we were still present before we became human forms.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

You're not. You're being called out for claiming your opinion is a fact.

There is a difference.

It is fact though. Reincarnation doesn't exist and there is no actual proof of it, it just spreads through word of mouth from one generation to the next.

Our consciousness starts as soon as our brain develops enough to enable us to have one, it ends when we die, when our brain dies our consciousness dies too, there is no real evidence to dispute that.

[Jessica.]

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed

Before those cells are encouraged to multiply, energy has to be drawn in from outside and those fundamental elements have to be drawn in and delivered by the umbilical blood. We put the energy into the blood by eating and breathing. We are borrowing our energy from outside sources.

IMO we don't get reincarnated from one whole being to another but are made up from millions of different things, so although I don't believe in reincarnation in the truest sense of the word; we were still present before we became human forms.

The gamete coming from the male gets energy from the fructose surrounding it. After it fuses with the gamete from the female it is sustained by oestrogen and progesterone until the blastocyst attaches, soon after that the placenta begins forming and transferring nutrients from the mother. That should be known by most people who studied reproduction during biology classes in school.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It is fact though.

No it isn't. It's an opinion.

That should be known by most people who studied english classes in school.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by Redway

From a purely scientific standpoint, yeah. I'm by no means a spiritualist by any stretch of the imagination and I myself am more inclined towards science and logic but being open to more abstract ideas doesn't make someone lacking in common sense as you explicitly stated. It's called a different perspective on life.

The thing is Science can't answer everything, but of course us being around before being a Foetus sounds absolutely absurd, but I think there's a lot of things in the universe that neither us or Science will ever be able to explain.

Obviously Science is the best way to prove/disprove something though.

And I agree with you that having spiritual beliefs doesn't make the person have less common sense, if anything that's quite a narrow minded opinion for anybody to have.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Well it certainly feels like you've been around forever.

Oh I have, and I come back stronger every time.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Oh I have, and I come back stronger every time.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

It is fact though. Reincarnation doesn't exist and there is no actual proof of it, it just spreads through word of mouth from one generation to the next.

Our consciousness starts as soon as our brain develops enough to enable us to have one, it ends when we die, when our brain dies our consciousness dies too, there is no real evidence to dispute that.

Philosophers have pondered this question for millennia. Who'da thought the definitive answer would be on this thread?

[Crimson Dynamo]

It has the same validity as the loch ness monster and nothing more

[Nedusa]

Originally Posted by Livia

Have you ever thought about joining the Samaritan's Trumpet?

[DemolitionRed]

Originally Posted by Jessica.

The gamete coming from the male gets energy from the fructose surrounding it. After it fuses with the gamete from the female it is sustained by oestrogen and progesterone until the blastocyst attaches, soon after that the placenta begins forming and transferring nutrients from the mother. That should be known by most people who studied reproduction during biology classes in school.

And fructose gages its energy from outside sources and so on and so on. That was my point but you're clearly not interested in engaging in conversation other than in a patronizing manner.

Whilst you may be cleverer than me in the biology department, your social skills are lacking.

[lostalex]

did my physical matter exist before i was born? yes.

did my consciousness exist before i was born? no.

frankly I'm not even sure my consciousness existed before puberty.

and if i get dementia before i die, I'm not sure my consciousness will exist even before I die.

If you lose your consciousness before you die, what are you really? the same nothingness that you were before you were born i guess.

Most of the people i've met in this life were mindless animals.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by lostalex

did my physical matter exist before i was born? yes.

did my consciousness exist before i was born? no.

frankly I'm not even sure my consciousness existed before puberty.

and if i get dementia before i die, I'm not sure my consciousness will exist even before I die.

If you lose your consciousness before you die, what are you really? the same nothingness that you were before you were born i guess.

Most of the people i've met in this life were mindless animals.

There's actually a lot of truth in there Alex.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Jump on the slug

Poor LT was sitting at the kitchen table drinking whiskey from a large pitcher and was well pissed when he MIS-READ this from you Niamh, and being a good obedient male he drank the last drop then collapsed over the pitcher.

I woke him up at 5.am and asked him what the hell he was doing, and he said;

"Niamh said; 'slump on the jug' "

[Kyle]

So for all of you reincarnated folks, which one of ya was Hitler? Own up now, come on.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

So for all of you reincarnated folks, which one of ya was Hitler? Own up now, come on.