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Old 19-04-2015, 09:20 PM #17
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There are definite similarities though. It is a far right political party which has hired ultra-nationalists, racist, xenophobes and homophobic people.

I'm not going to pull up articles for proof because they're literally everywhere for anybody to see but all of the above cases do exist. I'm not calling UKIP nazis, I'm calling many of the UKIP employees and some of their supporters neo-nazis, there is a difference between the two words and it's not even a case of a difference of opinion, this is a fact.


Just to be clear

Neo-Nazism borrows elements from Nazi doctrine, including ultranationalism, racism, ableism, xenophobia, homophobia, antisemitism

Nazi: noun historical: a member of the National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Different things.
I'm aware of the nature of a lot of Ukip's members and supporters and commented on it in this thread, but neo-Nazism refers to a very distinct and particular ideology which has its select subscribers, sure, but it has not really infiltrated itself into Ukip. Even if you were to argue that they have neo-nazi members it is hardly possible that those people could force those views into the party's established doctrine. Neo-nazism has its advocates and its parties in Britain but Ukip are not amonst those, it's an ideology which goes beyond a few buzzwords.

If we want to tackle Ukip lets face up to the problems of their actual policies rather than trying to smear them with a 'neo-nazi' tag which really just prevents constructing any meaningful opposition to Ukip.
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