[Livia]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Wolf-whistling builder accused of sexual harassment boasts it has helped him 'snog so many women' and brands his target 'a silly little girl' (but admits he DOES have a girlfriend)


A builder who wolf-whistled a young woman only to be accused of sexual harassment said today she is a 'silly little girl' who was 'lucky' to have received the attention.
Ian Merrett, 28, is astonished that Poppy Smart, 23, did not take it as a compliment, which he says has helped him 'snog loads of girls' in the past.
The builder and his colleagues whistled at her every day for a month as she passed their Worcester construction site.
Miss Smart, who compared the wolf-whistling to racial discrimination, eventually filmed them and asked West Mercia Police to investigate alleged sexual harassment.
Mr Merrett admits it was probably him whistling but called Miss Smart a 'silly little girl' who should never have gone to the police.
He said: 'I'm sure if she walks past again and she is lucky she will get wolf-whistled again. I have wolf-whistled so many girls and got so many birds and snogged so many girls off the back of that, and never had a complaint before. But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I say'.



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get a room you two

LOL... ****ing Neanderthal.

[Kyle]

'But I've got a girlfriend so need to be careful what I Say'

Darwin Awards 2015 right here, you heard it first.

[Crimson Dynamo]

can you just imagine what would be said (or sung) if she walked past a packed pub of footy fans?

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

can you just imagine what would be said (or sung) if she walked past a packed pub of footy fans?

Would she be likely to walk past and be harassed by a pub full of football fans every single morning on her way to work?

No.

We're not talking about a one off nuisance easily forgotten about but persistent harassment.

[Kyle]

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by Kyle

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

That made me laugh way more than it should have

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

Would she be likely to walk past and be harassed by a pub full of football fans every single morning on her way to work?

No.

We're not talking about a one off nuisance easily forgotten about but persistent harassment.

yes all that whistling must have been so traumatic for her

wheet-wheeal

Its enough to chill you to the very core

[kitchenspoon]

Ok, so not many things pull my attention like this article in the papers recently. After doing a quick search on the article i found this forum thread and after a while reading all the comments just had to reply...

So yes, im new here. Hi.

Since the dawn of man, women and their beauty have been worshiped in one form of another, and since as long as i can remember, wolf whistling has been a sign of a compliment for the working class men to use. I'm male and believe it or not on occasion in my youth i've had women whilste at me from their cars. I've always taken it as a compliment as i'm sure many women feel the same. There is zero justification for this individual wasting police time for wolf whistling.

However...

If this has been persistent, then ideally she ought to just ask them to stop. There are so many options available that could be addressed long before "using the sledgehammer to crack the walnut" approach. I'm sure many of you ask people to stop tapping a pen on a desk when it annoys you, ask people to stop humming and so forth. It's a simple enough request and with manners nobody takes offence. I'm sure you get the point.

If they physically blocked her access, once again no excuse for this, but i find it very difficult to believe that two builders would prevent a woman from walking down the road without physically touching her, that could border on assault, at which we would be looking at a different charge altogether.


You can take alot of example from films over the decades of men whistling at women that look attractive, have all features in the right places that men find enticing... take Pretty Woman featuring Julia Roberts after she goes on her shopping spree... she knows she looks good, she knows she flaunting it and she enjoys the attention from various men.

This girl Poppy is most DEFINITELY flaunting it, id hazard a guess a girl of her demographic has Facebook, Instagram and so forth, and it's highly likely she uploads images of herself, her friends and so forth. I'd go as far to say some of these pictures flaunt her assets... as Facebook, Instagram own the rights to any images uploaded to their platforms, she can't argue about who can and can't compliment her image, assets and so forth.

If you don't want to be noticed and whistled at, don't make yourself noticeable.

[Niamh.]

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Kyle

can you just imagine what would be said (or shot) if she walked past a packed Camp of Al-Qaeda trainees?

Only you could come up with that Kyle.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled

[Crimson Dynamo]

and welcome to kitchenspoon

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

I think the whole thing (her reporting it, not taking a different road etc) tells you a lot more about her tbh

We only have her word for the blocking thing. She seems to be, as i said before, a piece of work.

Any other girl would have ignored, it, changed route, told them to feck off etc

but for some reason she decided to go to the police who rightly told her to do one in a polite and official manner

No one is excusing the oiks but oiks exist and she needs to get a bit more street savvy and realistic

also maybe get her hair styled

We're going round in circles here LT.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

We're going round in circles here LT.

well go a different route


and put those boobs away

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

well go a different route


and put those boobs away

[kitchenspoon]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Welcome to the forum Kitchenspoon.

I guess the difference is that this was an on going thing for that girl, day in day out and not just a once in a while type thing? Also, following her and blocking her path is intimidating, I'm guessing you're a guy so maybe you don't understand how that could be intimidating for a girl walking on her own? Maybe if it were your sister or cousin or daughter in that situation you'd feel differently? Also, why do you suppose she'd go so far as to report it to the Police if she didn't feel harassed by it?

If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...

The wolf-whistle originates from the navy General Call made with a boatswain's pipe. The general call is made on a ship to get the attention of all hands for an announcement. Sailors in harbour would whistle the general call when seeing a pretty woman to draw fellow sailors' attention to her. It was eventually picked up by passers-by, not knowing the real meaning of the whistle, and passed on. Over time, the precise tones of the general call were flattened somewhat into the wolf whistle common today.[citation needed] Today, cat-calling or wolf-whistling can be considered a form of sexual harassment.

The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

[Crimson Dynamo]

where is her dad. If it was my daughter I would have phoned the boss of the site and told him. but not before asking her to just go a different way

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by kitchenspoon

If it's ongoing i can understand that it would be annoying, especially with men ogling at her and undressing her with their eyes. However, as i mentioned, there were many options available to her before contacting the police. By all accounts it appears none of these avenues were explored. If she felt uncomfortable physically walking on site, or perhaps turning around and asking them to stop, the majority of sites have board up with company names, numbers and so forth. It's evident she has a phone, and it's evident she knows how to use it so surely she could of made a phone call?

Yes i am a guy, and i have a daughter, and obviously being a father, i'd be uncomfortable hearing men wolf whistling at my daughter, i would be even more annoyed if it was consistent. However, manners cost nothing, and nor does asking other people politely that something is not welcome. You'd be surprised how accommodating the regular jo can be when a stranger doesn't like something.

I live in a world where wolf whistling is natural and an acceptable part of society, it's is complimentary, and if seen as anything else other than that has lived in a box for the last century.

This is a snippet of information on the origin of the wolf whistle...



The action of wolf whistling is really down to interpretation. I see it as a way to get a womans attention and let her know that i like her, i think she's pretty and such. Many would agree with this.

Is it really a natural and acceptable part of society anymore though? I don't know tbh. Now look, as I said it wouldn't bother me that much personally if it were just whistling but I know if it happened to me I would think "****ing idiots" rather than "Oh wow I must look amazing today"

You know up until not that long ago grabbing your secretaries ass was perfectly acceptable too (I watch Mad Men you know :P )

As for whether or not she should have went to the company first rather than the Police, that's debatable, if a person is feeling intimidated or harassed, the first port of call is usually the police not the persons employer