[Kizzy]

I have to say Joey this has thrown me, do you think that it's just a ploy to sell papers in Scotland? I hope it's not due to any shady deals :/

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I have to say Joey this has thrown me, do you think that it's just a ploy to sell papers in Scotland? I hope it's not due to any shady deals :/

I think the SUN has supported the SNP before in Scotland.
Who cares anyway that matters,the SUN is a total waste of paper and print anyway in my view.

See,I get how the SNP are riding high in Scotland, 45% ended up voting for independence, no other party in Scotland is in favour of Independence.
So the 45% who really got out there and voted for it, will now naturally support the SNP.
It is no surprise to me at all.

For me, it makes no difference only that it will possibly leave Labour,not the largest party,albeit by only a few seats here and there.
However the predictions are still around 275 to 280 seats for each of the main parties.
the SNP in its best sceanrio then could win 50 to 55 seats.
Any seats it fails to get,then saty with Labour and adds to Labour's tally.
That being the case, even in that situation, there would be no easy road for any possible Conservative led govt; as the SNP figures with the opposition would command the majority in parliament.

In truth, that would really mean no Conservative led govt; at all, as the SNP have ruled out ever allowing a Conservative govt; to come to power if it has the figures to stop it doing so.

I'd actually assume the other SUN, will be annoyed that the Scottish one is supporting the SNP again.
Since it exposes the SUN for the total hypocrites they are and of no national interest for the UK as a whole too.
To have one of its publications praising the SNP from the high heavens and supporting them, while the other shower are warning of how dangerous the SNP are.
They look what they are,pathetically ridiculous.

[bots]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think the SUN has supported the SNP before in Scotland.
Who cares anyway that matters,the SUN is a total waste of paper and print anyway in my view.

See,I get how the SNP are riding high in Scotland, 45% ended up voting for independence, no other party in Scotland is in favour of Independence.
So the 45% who really got out there and voted for it, will now naturally support the SNP.
It is no surprise to me at all.

For me, it makes no difference only that it will possibly leave Labour,not the largest party,albeit by only a few seats here and there.
However the predictions are still around 275 to 280 seats for each of the main parties.
the SNP in its best sceanrio then could win 50 to 55 seats.
Any seats it fails to get,then saty with Labour and adds to Labour's tally.
That being the case, even in that situation, there would be no easy road for any possible Conservative led govt; as the SNP figures with the opposition would command the majority in parliament.

In truth, that would really mean no Conservative led govt; at all, as the SNP have ruled out ever allowing a Conservative govt; to come to power if it has the figures to stop it doing so.

I'd actually assume the other SUN, will be annoyed that the Scottish one is supporting the SNP again.
Since it exposes the SUN for the total hypocrites they are and of no national interest for the UK as a whole too.
To have one of its publications praising the SNP from the high heavens and supporting them, while the other shower are warning of how dangerous the SNP are.
They look what they are,pathetically ridiculous.

One could say that it shows that the Sun does have independent editorial teams for both versions of the paper, and that's a good thing. However, I believe the sole criteria for the paper choosing sides is based on who they think the majority of its readership will vote for, and nothing deeper than that. It would be commercial suicide to advocate a different view from the majority of its readership.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

I think the SUN has supported the SNP before in Scotland.
Who cares anyway that matters,the SUN is a total waste of paper and print anyway in my view.

See,I get how the SNP are riding high in Scotland, 45% ended up voting for independence, no other party in Scotland is in favour of Independence.
So the 45% who really got out there and voted for it, will now naturally support the SNP.
It is no surprise to me at all.

For me, it makes no difference only that it will possibly leave Labour,not the largest party,albeit by only a few seats here and there.
However the predictions are still around 275 to 280 seats for each of the main parties.
the SNP in its best sceanrio then could win 50 to 55 seats.
Any seats it fails to get,then saty with Labour and adds to Labour's tally.
That being the case, even in that situation, there would be no easy road for any possible Conservative led govt; as the SNP figures with the opposition would command the majority in parliament.

In truth, that would really mean no Conservative led govt; at all, as the SNP have ruled out ever allowing a Conservative govt; to come to power if it has the figures to stop it doing so.

I'd actually assume the other SUN, will be annoyed that the Scottish one is supporting the SNP again.
Since it exposes the SUN for the total hypocrites they are and of no national interest for the UK as a whole too.
To have one of its publications praising the SNP from the high heavens and supporting them, while the other shower are warning of how dangerous the SNP are.
They look what they are,pathetically ridiculous.

You've gotta admit Joey that what's happening in Scotland is absolutely disastrous for Labour though. All the jokes about Scotland having less Tory MPs than they do giant pandas, well its looking like that could be true for Labour now as well! A couple of polls have even had the SNP winning every single seat. The Scottish Labour leader could lose his seat, Douglas Alexander could well lose his seat to a 20 year old politics student! It's remarkable. It's bad for the UK as a whole because I really think that Sturgeon will have good grounds to push for another referendum now and the Yes campaign could very well win it this time.

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You've gotta admit Joey that what's happening in Scotland is absolutely disastrous for Labour though. All the jokes about Scotland having less Tory MPs than they do giant pandas, well its looking like that could be true for Labour now as well! A couple of polls have even had the SNP winning every single seat. The Scottish Labour leader could lose his seat, Douglas Alexander could well lose his seat to a 20 year old politics student! It's remarkable. It's bad for the UK as a whole because I really think that Sturgeon will have good grounds to push for another referendum now and the Yes campaign could very well win it this time.

Fingers crossed.

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Livia

Fingers crossed.

Don't think you'd be the only one

[Livia]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Don't think you'd be the only one in England

I think it's about time they asked the English whether they want Scotland to remain part of the Union. I'm tired of the tail wagging the dog.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

You've gotta admit Joey that what's happening in Scotland is absolutely disastrous for Labour though. All the jokes about Scotland having less Tory MPs than they do giant pandas, well its looking like that could be true for Labour now as well! A couple of polls have even had the SNP winning every single seat. The Scottish Labour leader could lose his seat, Douglas Alexander could well lose his seat to a 20 year old politics student! It's remarkable. It's bad for the UK as a whole because I really think that Sturgeon will have good grounds to push for another referendum now and the Yes campaign could very well win it this time.

It is disastrous for Labour and I admit that, there was always going to come a time when what happened to the Conservatives as to Scotland,they won 21 seats there 40 years ago, would come round to Labour once the SNP really got 'authority' in Scotland.

As I have said consistently on here even before the election campaign officially began,I am not that bothered.
had the votes been going to the Lib Dems or the Conservatives or even UKIP,then that would have been far worse for me.

As it is,the SNP have more policies I agree with than I do Labours.
Added to that the 45% who voted for independence, the situation in Scotland is not surprising, the scale is but we won't know the real scale until the votes are cast.

I actually don't think Nicola Sturgeon will get or even seek a referendum again,not in this decade at any rate.
No party in Westminster would support another and it would have to be agreed and got through the UK Parliament again.