[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Think I'd actually rather a Labour-SNP coalition than a situation where a Labour minority has to painstakingly win the support of the Nats on every single issue constantly having to offer concessions to push through any legislation at all

It can be easy though MTVN, the SNP have operated a minority situation for 4 years in Scotland before 2011,they know the importance of stability.

A minority govt; can be a stable one if most of the parliamenary MPs elected, are happy for it to govern and really hate the alternative.

The SNP will know the important votes and all they need to do is be there for them to ensure that stability of govt; which they will be,they cannot just hang around Scotland.

He will also have the Greens, Plaid Cymru and the SDLP in Northen Ireland against the Conservatives too.
his could be,if it is the case, one fo the stronger govts; the UK has had, as it would command more parties supporting it in the Commons.

The current predictions are Labour 274 seats, the Conservatives 281,the SNP 55.
If that was the case, no way could the Conservatives ever govern without support from the SNP,so stability can be assured even likely with no deal whatsoever that could either compromise Labour or in fact the SNP too.

Me, myself agree, I'd rather a Labour/SNP coalition but both have ruled that out so the SNP are not seeking ministerial posts or even a formal agreement either.

[In the Drunk Tank]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

It can be easy thugh MTVN, the SNP have operated a minority situation for 4 years in Scotland before 2011,they know the importance of stability.

A minority govt; can be a stable one if most of the parliamenary MPs elected, are happy for it to govern and really hate the alternative.

The SNP will know the important votes and all they need to do is be there for them to ensure that stability of govt; which they will be,they cannot just hang around Scotland.

He will also have the Greens, Plaid Cymru and the SDLP in Northen Ireland against the Conservatives too.
his could be,if it is the case, one fo the stronger govts; the UK has had, as it would command more parties supporting it in the Commons.

The current predictions are Labour 274 seats, the Conservatives 281,the SNP 55.
If that was the case, no way could the Conservatives ever govern without support from the SNP,so stability can be assured even likely with no deal whatsoever that could either compromise Labour or in fact the SNP too.

Me, myself agree, I'd rather a Labour/SNP coalition but both have ruled that out so the SNP are not seeking ministerial posts or even a formal agreement either.

It's far from ideal though, I believe the SNP once had their budget defeated as a minority government in Scotland. I think we'd be likely to see 5 years of stand offs: The SNP will not want to be seen doing anything to help the Tories but they will also not want to be seen giving unqualified support for a Labour minority. They will want to extract some key concessions and would probably be justified in predicating their support for Labour on gaining those, Labour's position will be constantly insecure if the main opposition party has more seats than the government.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by MTVN

It's far from ideal though, I believe the SNP once had their budget defeated as a minority government in Scotland. I think we'd be likely to see 5 years of stand offs: The SNP will not want to be seen doing anything to help the Tories but they will also not want to be seen giving unqualified support for a Labour minority. They will want to extract some key concessions and would probably be justified in predicating their support for Labour on gaining those, Labour's position will be constantly insecure if the main opposition party has more seats than the government.

If things stay as they are,I really can see Miliband digging his heels in and preferring another election that the SNP will have then forced.
He may even see that,rightly or wrongly, as his way back in Scotland.

The SNP would be slated and their finances rocked if even that came about,they have had the referendum vote last year, this general election, possibly another in a month or 2 if they brought Labour down,then the Holyrood elections next year.
The Scots would be fed up.
He may see this as putting the SNP on the spot totally, having said that, I do believe the SNP would support Labour legislation in order to never risk even just another election.

I have to head out again now,more canvassing, great to have chatted with you MTVN on this one.