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Ammi · 10-05-2015, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Stand by for Cameron taking the moral high ground and making the entire thing about the war memorial.

..but that wouldn't be him making it about that though, it would be the people or person who defaced the war memorial who made it about that..whatever feelings people have about David Cameron or the Conservative party or if it had been any other party who won...because he wasn't the one who made it about that and neither did the majority of protesters either..protesting is good, uniting in one voice is good when you all feel so strongly about something but sadly as is so often the case, a minority of a few people distract from that voice by making it about something else/by making it about what they have done...and really isn't it those few who are taking a moral high ground in a kind of way because it's placing their heightened feelings above families of people who died for their country, there is no bigger sacrifice or 'hardship' than that..The women of WW2 and the memory of them have nothing to do with anything protested about, and if the focus is about that/the memorial... then it's whoever disrespected it that has made it so...

kirklancaster · 10-05-2015, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..but that wouldn't be him making it about that though, it would be the people or person who defaced the war memorial who made it about that..whatever feelings people have about David Cameron or the Conservative party or if it had been any other party who won...because he wasn't the one who made it about that and neither did the majority of protesters either..protesting is good, uniting in one voice is good when you all feel so strongly about something but sadly as is so often the case, a minority of a few people distract from that voice by making it about something else/by making it about what they have done...and really isn't it those few who are taking a moral high ground in a kind of way because it's placing their heightened feelings above families of people who died for their country, there is no bigger sacrifice or 'hardship' than that..The women of WW2 and the memory of them have nothing to do with anything protested about, and if the focus is about that/the memorial... then it's whoever disrespected it that has made it so...

Truth and sense from Ammi.

user104658 · 10-05-2015, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..but that wouldn't be him making it about that though, it would be the people or person who defaced the war memorial who made it about that..whatever feelings people have about David Cameron or the Conservative party or if it had been any other party who won...because he wasn't the one who made it about that and neither did the majority of protesters either..protesting is good, uniting in one voice is good when you all feel so strongly about something but sadly as is so often the case, a minority of a few people distract from that voice by making it about something else/by making it about what they have done...and really isn't it those few who are taking a moral high ground in a kind of way because it's placing their heightened feelings above families of people who died for their country, there is no bigger sacrifice or 'hardship' than that..The women of WW2 and the memory of them have nothing to do with anything protested about, and if the focus is about that/the memorial... then it's whoever disrespected it that has made it so...

No Ammi he will make it ALL about that. I'm not saying that it wasn't disgusting for a few of those people to do that, and he could (and should) address that whilst also acknowledging people's frustrations and fears and - one would hope - at least trying to reassure those frustrated and afraid people that he is there to do his best for everyone and that his government are not a bunch of bogeymen.

He won't do that. He will bleat on about the vandalism and only the vandalism, vilify everyone involved even those who were nowhere near the war memorial, not because he actually gives a stuff about the war memorial, but because it's a convenient excuse for ignoring the fact that people are genuinely horrified about the election results. Not disappointed, not "sore losers", but horrified. Scared. And the fact that he will have no interest in even trying to offer words of assurance, but will instead dismiss those people in a sweepy gesture as "vandals" and "scum", says it all.

Who knows, he might surprise me. I very, very much doubt it.

Kazanne · 10-05-2015, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi

..but that wouldn't be him making it about that though, it would be the people or person who defaced the war memorial who made it about that..whatever feelings people have about David Cameron or the Conservative party or if it had been any other party who won...because he wasn't the one who made it about that and neither did the majority of protesters either..protesting is good, uniting in one voice is good when you all feel so strongly about something but sadly as is so often the case, a minority of a few people distract from that voice by making it about something else/by making it about what they have done...and really isn't it those few who are taking a moral high ground in a kind of way because it's placing their heightened feelings above families of people who died for their country, there is no bigger sacrifice or 'hardship' than that..The women of WW2 and the memory of them have nothing to do with anything protested about, and if the focus is about that/the memorial... then it's whoever disrespected it that has made it so...

Well said Ammi,there is NO excuse for defacing a memorial or any other property for that matter,it shows them up for the cretins they are.

arista · 10-05-2015, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well said Ammi,there is NO excuse for defacing a memorial or any other property for that matter,it shows them up for the cretins they are.

Yes but this Left Wing Horror group
says Feck Women

Kazanne · 10-05-2015, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by arista

Yes but this Left Wing Horror group
says Feck Women

Well FECK them I say arista ,they need to go out and get a job,too much time on there hands.

bots · 10-05-2015, 09:52 AM

Peaceful protest ..... Yeah, peaceful protesters are known to wear masks and hoods and face off against the police

Kazanne · 10-05-2015, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Peaceful protest ..... Yeah, peaceful protesters are known to wear masks and hoods and face off against the police

I see the brave ones out there gobbing in their hoodies,

Look at the baying mob,why should England tremble !!!

joeysteele · 10-05-2015, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

Well FECK them I say arista ,they need to go out and get a job,too much time on there hands.

With respect, how do you know they haven't got jobs or at least most of them.
It was a Sunday Kazanne, not everyone 'has to work' Sundays yet still.

Kazanne · 10-05-2015, 09:57 AM

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With respect, how do you know they haven't got jobs or at least most of them.
It was a Sunday Kazanne, not everyone 'has to work' Sundays yet still.

It was tongue and cheek Joey we just don't have a smilie for that,but evenso if they are the sort of people that we are left with that don't like the Tories,I am glad I voted the right way now,bitontheslide pics say it all.

joeysteele · 10-05-2015, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne

It was tongue and cheek Joey we just don't have a smilie for that,but evenso if they are the sort of people that we are left with that don't like the Tories,I am glad I voted the right way now,bitontheslide pics say it all.

If I was a supporter of marches I would have likely joined that one, so I would have been a lout and waste of space too in your and others generalised view of them all.