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user104658 · 12-05-2015, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele

His word is now meaningless too.
He has now just joined the real world of most of politics where what he says and what he does are 2 entirely different things.

My thoughts exactly. The "man of his word" image mentioned by LT is something he's played on to great effect for years and he's completely obliterated that now. He said he would step down, but now there's a caveat; he stepped down but would immediately step back up? Going back on his word on a technicality.

His supporters may think it justified but the damage is huge. He's shown that he will go back on a promise under pressure or if he thinks it's for "the greater good", which means that he's now just like any other politician. You can't trust his promises. He will wriggle out of them if he feels necessary.

arista · 12-05-2015, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

Do I detect the faint whiff of mutiny aboard ship UKIP?...

MP Douglas Carswell seizing the reins?

No I think Douglas is to busy helping his locals
he is a good MP thats why he won again.

Niamh. · 12-05-2015, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

My thoughts exactly. The "man of his word" image mentioned by LT is something he's played on to great effect for years and he's completely obliterated that now. He said he would step down, but now there's a caveat; he stepped down but would immediately step back up? Going back on his word on a technicality.

His supporters may think it justified but the damage is huge. He's shown that he will go back on a promise under pressure or if he thinks it's for "the greater good", which means that he's now just like any other politician. You can't trust his promises. He will wriggle out of them if he feels necessary.

It's very easy for politicians with no power to claim they are "men of their words"

Cherie · 12-05-2015, 02:52 PM

Basically his bluff backfired, I think he arrogantly thought saying he would step down if he didn't win his constituency would effectively seal his win, now he has to backtrack, I hope when I hand in my resignation my boss won't refuse

Crimson Dynamo · 12-05-2015, 02:59 PM

oh dear it seems that all those who did not win in this election are very sore losers.

You need to learn from Nigel about being gracious in defeat.

This is not the end of ukip, nor was it the beginning - it was the end of the beginning and now the battle can really begin

Cherie · 12-05-2015, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oh dear it seems that all those who did not win in this election are very sore losers.

You need to learn from Nigel about being gracious in defeat.

This is not the end of ukip, nor was it the beginning - it was the end of the beginning and now the battle can really begin

Crimson Dynamo · 12-05-2015, 03:03 PM

Niamh. · 12-05-2015, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

oh dear it seems that all those who did not win in this election are very sore losers.

You need to learn from Nigel about being gracious in defeat.

This is not the end of ukip, nor was it the beginning - it was the end of the beginning and now the battle can really begin

You can't call me a sore loser when I know nothing about British politics and have no real interest in who wins or doesn't in your election, I'm just calling a spade a spade as an unbiased bystander

Crimson Dynamo · 12-05-2015, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

You can't call me a sore loser when I know nothing about British politics and have no real interest in who wins or doesn't in your election, I'm just calling a spade a spade as an unbiased bystander

An unbiased Irish person?

Niamh. · 12-05-2015, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

An unbiased Irish person?

when it comes to another countries government.........yes

Crimson Dynamo · 12-05-2015, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh.

when it comes to another countries government.........yes

He would make a great leader of your TYSPXTYSTSYXYSTSYSXSTSS

or whatever you call it

Niamh. · 12-05-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

He would make a great leader of your TYSPXTYSTSYXYSTSYSXSTSS

or whatever you call it

We have plenty of our own assholes over here already thanks

Kizzy · 12-05-2015, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

If I ever get as unbiased as this guy will someone please put me out of my misery

Crimson Dynamo · 12-05-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy

If I ever get as unbiased as this guy will someone please put me out of my misery

admit it Kizzler he gives you the odd hot flush?

Kizzy · 12-05-2015, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

admit it Kizzler he gives you the odd hot flush?

*drake face*

Gstar · 12-05-2015, 03:35 PM

I didn't know that a resignation can be declined, sucks for him

Cherie · 12-05-2015, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

An unbiased Irish person?

Swing that hammer Niamh.

Cherie · 12-05-2015, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Germyle

I didn't know that a resignation can be declined, sucks for him

Yes its a new phenomenon, you hand in your notice, its declined and you have to commute as you have relocated to Scotland LT does it every day

Niamh. · 12-05-2015, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie

Swing that hammer Niamh.

I tried to ban him but he refused to be banned, damn it

bots · 12-05-2015, 03:44 PM

Well, you can refuse to accept the fact that they have refused to accept your resignation, and if Nige was serious about resigning, that would have been it. Clearly he was just posturing.

MTVN · 12-05-2015, 03:45 PM

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A major stand-off has developed between senior UKIP figures and the party's only MP over public money they are entitled to receive. UKIP is entitled to around £650,000 of what's known as short money which goes to opposition parties to help finance their back-room operations.

I understand Douglas Carswell was approached by UKIP's party secretary yesterday and asked to recruit 15 extra staff for his parliamentary office. The Clacton MP rejected the proposal, making it clear he was not going to agree to the plan, which sources close to him have described as "improper". It's also believed that the Essex MP thinks spending that amount of taxpayers' money is "not what we're about".

It's believed that details of the dispute were made public by UKIP party officials following Mr Carswell's refusal to agree. Mr Carswell told the BBC: "I am not a US senator", adding, "I don't need 15 staff". He ended by saying: "UKIP is supposed to be different."

Oh dear oh dear, UKIP performing a masterclass in how to piss off your only MP