[arista]

Originally Posted by joeysteele

He is right though arista as to all that.

You really know your politics arista,I always respect that in you but do you really think the Conservatives will not try to coax him back again.

There are still many Conservative MPs who have a high regard for Douglas Carswell.
Even I know that and I am not now a Conservative supporter.

Yes that remains
Douglas is a Top Man
I respect him.

I am a Conservative

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by arista

Thats Old news


You Sense Hype


No Real Facts


You are a Mod
its a OUTRAGE

Look I am here giving great breaking info and behind-the-scenes news, there is no outrage here. All is not well between Carswell and UKIP and that is an absolute fact.

You are too far behind, you'll probably come in this section in two months time once Carswell leaves UKIP and make out you are offering some breaking news when really the likes of me and Joey will have seen the writing on the wall for some time

[arista]

"You are too far behind"


How Dare you say that to me.

You can not give
or a "Name"


Also post links
you cheat


It is a Outrage

I calling the Owner of this site

[MTVN]

I am getting my info as it happens from the great BBC politics live feed, they are better informed and more up to date than you are

[arista]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I am getting my info as it happens from the great BBC politics live feed, they are better informed and more up to date than you are

Like I said in the First place
BBC Hype.

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Look I am here giving great breaking info and behind-the-scenes news, there is no outrage here. All is not well between Carswell and UKIP and that is an absolute fact.

You are too far behind, you'll probably come in this section in two months time once Carswell leaves UKIP and make out you are offering some breaking news when really the likes of me and Joey will have seen the writing on the wall for some time

[Cherie]

Originally Posted by MTVN

I am getting my info as it happens from the great BBC politics live feed, they are better informed and more up to date than you are

[Cherie]

So let me get this straight each opposition MP gets 650,000 for backroom staff as well as expenses makes the Ł70.00 giro look like a bargain

[MTVN]

But some of it is based on the impression some people get of Mr Carswell as already slightly semi-detached from Ukip. He didn't appear at the party's manifesto launch, he looked very uncomfortable with Nigel Farage's tub-thumping on HIV+ immigrants (his father was a doctor who treated HIV patients in Uganda). And then there's the unresignation, which is about as far away from the Carswell way of doing politics as you can get.

Could Mr Carswell desert Ukip as he did the Tories?

He isn't the sort to jump because it's good for his career. But nor I suspect is he the sort to compromise on his principles for the financial advantage of his party.
This is why that money row is so serious.

Even Mr Carswell's critics consider him a man of principle. Indeed, if he has a fault it's that he can be a little stiff and unbending, qualities than can mean he comes across as a little humourless.

It's worth recalling that when he defected from the Tories to Ukip he insisted on getting his voters' approval in a by-election.

Having thus established the Carswell Convention, I am sure that if he did leave the party under whose colours he was elected last week, perhaps to become an independent, he would again trigger a by-election in Clacton, an election Ukip would surely struggle to win.

This is a man who takes his relationship with his constituents seriously. How would he explain to the people of Clacton why their taxes should pay for the 15 staff members Ukip apparently wants him to hire?

Ukippers should be careful not to ask Mr Carswell to choose between party and principle. There is little doubt about his choice.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/poli...with-Ukip.html

Here for UKIP losing their only MP

[MTVN]

The BBC with some more behind-the-scenes news on UKIP's civil war:

A party with just one MP and there are serious splits, almost unbelievably.

On the one hand, you’ve got a principled row between Douglas Carswell and other senior figures. He doesn't want to take the money, but some figures at the top of the party believe they need the money and they should take it.

On the other, there's something quite nasty going on in private between Carswell and one senior figure close to Farage, briefing against each other. I think there's some dishonest versions of what's going on and it's all quite nasty.

[bots]

Originally Posted by MTVN

The BBC with some more behind-the-scenes news on UKIP's civil war:

I read a report on the BBC that Carswell wanted to take the 650K, but demanded to be able to spend it himself, rather than being told how it would be spent by the party. Its all warming up rather nicely

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

I read a report on the BBC that Carswell wanted to take the 650K, but demanded to be able to spend it himself, rather than being told how it would be spent by the party. Its all warming up rather nicely

That sounds truer to his tory roots

[empire]

there has been a lot of voting fraud, in this years election, at least two voting ballot boxes, went missing in south thanet, I believe they where dumped some where, the establishment fear farage, they did not want him having a seat at the house of commons, they knew he would win that seat, so they had to play dirty and cheat, the police will not investigate it, because they are in bed with the establishment parties, bit like the freemasons,