[Beetlejuice]

Chris is 100% correct. It's nice to see someone defend the show for what it once was and could still be. The solutions to the problems of this show are the ones I have tried, in the face of a torrent of abuse (which Chris himself seems to be receiving on this thread), to spell out to people. A return to the older, simpler, less manipulated format. That will need more interesting characters, more coverage to get to know them (24/7 online live feed) and tasks that challenge them rather than humiliate them whilst still being fun. And the producers allowing things to unfold naturally instead of constantly involving themselves because they lack faith in the housemates (as well as the viewers).

The sadness of Marc as far as I can tell (I haven't been watching, just keeping up via the forums) is that this is an intelligent guy who has chosen to swim in a sewage. Why does he reduce himself to this? Does anyone know? Will viewers ever find out? Or are they to be subjected to him telling Sam he wants to rub his face in her vagina for 6 more weeks and that's it? It is tawdry. And it is boring.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

Chris is 100% correct. It's nice to see someone defend the show for what it once was and could still be. The solutions to the problems of this show are the ones I have tried, in the face of a torrent of abuse (which Chris himself seems to be receiving on this thread), to spell out to people. A return to the older, simpler, less manipulated format. That will need more interesting characters, more coverage to get to know them (24/7 online live feed) and tasks that challenge them rather than humiliate them whilst still being fun. And the producers allowing things to unfold naturally instead of constantly involving themselves because they lack faith in the housemates (as well as the viewers).

The sadness of Marc as far as I can tell (I haven't been watching, just keeping up via the forums) is that this is an intelligent guy who has chosen to swim in a sewage. Why does he reduce himself to this? Does anyone know? Will viewers ever find out? Or are they to be subjected to him telling Sam he wants to rub his face in her vagina for 6 more weeks and that's it? It is tawdry. And it is boring.

I reckon he has either been paid or has been assured that the edits will be manipulated to ensure he wins the thing ala Helen last year.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by Cherie

I reckon he has either been paid or has been assured that the edits will be manipulated to ensure he wins the thing ala Helen last year.

I'm sure a conversation was had with him before he went on the show as to what was expected from him. For all we know, such conversations are still going on in the diary room.

[Cherry Christmas]

Originally Posted by Beetlejuice

I'm sure a conversation was had with him before he went on the show as to what was expected from him. For all we know, such conversations are still going on in the diary room.

Pretty sure they still are