[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Again, tits don't interest me, but keep trying to discredit people's support of Harry by all means if it makes you feel better about supporting Marc

I wasn't directing it at you,just some people in general,dont be so sensitive,You can love harry all you want,but we can still comment on her

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

Spill?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by parmnion

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

That's xenophobia
Harry also used marc's nationality for an insult so there you go both are bad as each other

[Beetlejuice]

knacker
Irish term of affection for general scum (low lifes). Originally originating from a term of reference for travellers. But nowadays covering whole spectrum of degenerates. Inbreeding is commonplace and your mother can often be your sister.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by LukeB

That's xenophobia
Harry also used marc's nationality for an insult so there you go both are bad as each other

no it's a racist slur as it has connectations that he thinks and classes all gypsys as dirty.

[Beso]

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by parmnion

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?

I know, it makes Aaron being ejected look almost trivial.
BB's double standards are beyond words.

[sampvt]

Originally Posted by Liam-

Again, tits don't interest me, but keep trying to discredit people's support of Harry by all means if it makes you feel better about supporting Marc

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

[Pete.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

sooooo.
the racist slur
threatening to kill danny
cum bucket
fat pig
baggy fanny
tossing hms about
waving cock at hms


have i missed anything?

Chloe's STD test

[Liam-]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

A. I didn't have a go at anyone
B. Please drop the attitude
C. I don't favour people just to 'wind people up'
D. Why would I class you as a bully? idgi

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well. grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses and she don't like it that's why she constantly vents and stabs him in the back. Hardly a recipe for a nice girl is it, or are you just picking her to have someone to champion and wind people up with.

But you don't have to like Harry to see just how bad Marc's behaviour is.
He is not "Taking her to school" but saying disgusting & vile things that no sane person would ever utter.
Harry is allowed to answer back to him. Why should she just take whatever he has to say to her.
The other HM's are terrified of Marc. They just sit there hoping he does not start on them. Take Danny for example, stood up to him on the first night but since then has stood back & let Marc take over the house. He is spineless.
He could have played it so much better by really standing up to him. But he is too scared.
Harry is not scared of Marc, & he knows this.
Which is why he wants her out.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by parmnion

whilst in an agitated state and whilst calling her dirty etc, he also told her she was a dirty knacker...which is another word for gypsy in ireland.


So yes, that was, in this instance, a racist comment....but keep sweeping these things under the carpet cause he is soooooooooooooooo entertaining.

Originally Posted by parmnion

the racist bit is fact.

Originally Posted by parmnion

oh yes he did.

He called her dirty and a pig just before warning her to keep her dirty knacker mouth shut.

Go ask your irish friends what a knacker is.

Originally Posted by parmnion

no it's a racist slur as it has connectations that he thinks and classes all gypsys as dirty.

Irish here, from roughly the region Mark is from. It is not a racist term here. It has racial origins but hasn't had racist connotations in common usage for over a decade. Personally I avoid the word because of it's history but Mark's usage had absolutely no racial connotations. The word literally doesn't mean member of the traveling community to him, or me.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

Irish here, from roughly the region Mark is from. It is not a racist term here. It has racial origins but hasn't had racist connotations in common usage for over a decade. Personally I avoid the word because of it's history but Mark's usage had absolutely no racial connotations. The word literally doesn't mean member of the traveling community to him, or me.

you may paint it up however you want, you wont change my mind..it was a racist remark, and i was offended.

[jennyjuniper]

No I don't believe so. They are both antagonistic. Marc's shows in snide remarks usually to her face, whereas Harry's snide remarks are to other people.
To me bullying is when the person being bullied is afraid of the other person or persons, but Harry shows no sign of this. On the contrary a couple of times lately she has tried to instigate a quarrel. If she is isolated, much of it is her own doing.

[Rorkimaru]

Originally Posted by parmnion

you may paint it up however you want, you wont change my mind..it was a racist remark, and i was offended.

You can be offended all you like but that doesn't make it racist. I'm a 5 minute drive from where Mark grew up. I know what the language means and regardless of whether or not you're getting offended by it, it wasn't racist.

If you want to discuss a racist comment how about Harry calling him an Irish *****. Do you think she meant anything other than Irish when she was using the word to augment that insult? If you're offended by racism be offended by that.

[Amy Jade]

Yes 100%

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Rorkimaru

You can be offended all you like but that doesn't make it racist. I'm a 5 minute drive from where Mark grew up. I know what the language means and regardless of whether or not you're getting offended by it, it wasn't racist.

If you want to discuss a racist comment how about Harry calling him an Irish *****. Do you think she meant anything other than Irish when she was using the word to augment that insult? If you're offended by racism be offended by that.

On another thread you concede that people still use it to refer to gypsy's...like marc was.

[Amy Jade]

parmnion

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by sampvt

Hey Liam....I don't like her either, she is a slag and a dangerous lowlife with no morals and the social values of a tramp, do you wanna have a go at me now, or do you class me as a bully as well.

If you were repeatedly saying that to her or about her whilst living with her and getting others to join in, then yes, you'd be a bully. Saying it on an internet forum is slightly different. Obviously.

grow up and smell the coffee, she is a tart and Marc is taking her to the school of slapped arses.

If there's a case to be made against her, then make the case. Calling someone a pig, bitch, disgusting, creature, smelly and stinking is just awful behaviour towards another person who you as well as others have to live with. It is utterly selfish and nasty.

[Beetlejuice]

Originally Posted by jennyjuniper

No I don't believe so. They are both antagonistic. Marc's shows in snide remarks usually to her face, whereas Harry's snide remarks are to other people.
To me bullying is when the person being bullied is afraid of the other person or persons, but Harry shows no sign of this.

By that logic, a fearless person might be overpowered by another and have his head shoved down a toilet. Is it not bullying because they at no point were scared?

On the contrary a couple of times lately she has tried to instigate a quarrel. If she is isolated, much of it is her own doing.

Blaming the victim. Well played Marc. Producer's Pet. Got the house and the viewers wrapped around your little finger.

[Tarryn]

So if Harry deserves the abuse she get's from Marc because she is a tart or slut then why is Marc not doing the same to Jade ?.
Jade openly admits to putting it about.

[Robodog]

He's def not bullying her.

He rips the p*ss out of everyone in there equally, he just dislikes Harry more than others.

I wasn't sure why he disliked her, until I saw her angry rant with Nick, saying Marc should be scared of her etc.

Then I realised there was a very angry Harry hiding behind the flimsy one-week mask of a super-friendly Harry. So Marc was right to notice that and fair enough he took a dislike to her fake friendliness.

Like Marc said, he'd just keep away her in real life, but in BB you cannot run. Especially when everyday there are BB tasks designed to cause conflict.

As usual - if anyone's the bullying sh*t stirrer - it's BB !

The fact BB even chose characters like Marc and Harry as the new HMs shows that they want this type of conflict for the show!And here it is !

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[Margarine.]

lmao this forum is hilarious at times

the answer to this question is no

[andybigbro]

No it's not bullying. They just don't get along.

That word gets fired far too much, people don't like each other and they argue. They have both insulted each other using very harsh words.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by andybigbro

No it's not bullying. They just don't get along.

That word gets fired far too much, people don't like each other and they argue. They have both insulted each other using very harsh words.

Yeah this

I have got bullied myself and I don't see Marc as a bully.