[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

Nikki was nasty, in BB7.
She just wasn't Helen level nasty. But to say she wasn't thatt nasty is an understatement.

I watched a lot of LF that year, and the bitching she did about Aisleyne, along with Grace and Mikey when they were in the HND, during the final week wasn't nice at all.

I remember Nikki and Grace poking fun at Aisleyne and Grace telling Nikki if she does go back in to convince Aisleyne to wear her blue eviction dress as it made Aisleyne look like a man, and a slapper, and it would be humiliating for her to walk out of the house looking like that.

That's why Nikki left the house during the final, to a worse reception compared to the winners reception she left the house to five weeks earlier.

She was pretty vitriolic about Aisleyne with Jayne during the week she was evicted too.

I said she wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty as other housemates in her series.

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by adamski94

She was the main instigator in breaking down a mentally unwell man aswell as targeting another housemate for smelling of BO not real a great role model no

How does any of that excuse Helen?

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by reece(:

This is BB16, we're 9 years on so idk why this thread is needed. Everyone did stuff to Shahbaz and as BB was far stricter back then they would have pulled them from the show had it gone too far but they did not as Shahbaz was goading people at times too.

Why does the "9 years later" stuff only come up when people are discussing Nikki's bad moments? People discuss what they like about housemates all the time, and she herself is happy to continue the "Who is she?" thing 9 years later.

If some of their behaviour 9 years ago is relevant for discussion, it's only fair that it all is.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Daniel_

I hope this wasnt aimed at me

I don't condone hat Nikki did, it was nasty, just not bullying

No, the "passive-aggressive mocking" thing wasn't at all, it was just a general comment because it happens every time people try to discuss the negatives of a housemate who happens to be popular.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

I said she wasn't that nice in BB7 but she wasn't that nasty as other housemates in her series.

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

[Kazanne]

Nikki has a right nasty streak,she has been vile to people ,but because she acts like a 6 year old she gets excused for some reason,she was horrible in her series.

[LukeB]

The thing is with Nikki she was very immature back in BB7 she was easily influenced by others. She has grown up a bit but I judge people now on what I see now and not 9 years ago because so much can happen and people change all the time.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

Not really, you can't say that because you don't really know me that well

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by BB6

I'd only put Grace, Lisa, Richard, and Sezer above her on the nastiness scale.

But lets be honest though, if Helen said the same things Nikki said. You would call her a vile cretin. js.

Interestingly, Grace actually felt bad for Shahbaz during the clothes-stealing thing and wanted to get him a towel (while Nikki was having the time of her life), but she's remembered as one of BB's all-time bitches and Nikki is remembered as BB's princess.

I'm not saying Nikki is worse than Grace or evil incarnate or anything like that before someone jumps on that, just that there are little moments like that which put these housemates more into shades of grey rather than the stereotypical ways they've been remembered throughout the years.

[BB4fan]

Nikki is a filthy bully and in BB7 she was right nasty to Susie.

Nikki couldn't comment on anyones behavior because she's down right vile.

[Jason.]

Originally Posted by LukeB

The thing is with Nikki she was very immature back in BB7 she was easily influenced by others. She has grown up a bit but I judge people now on what I see now and not 9 years ago because so much can happen and people change all the time.

Weak argument.
Being immature does not justify someones transphobic comments.
She was 24, not 4.

Plus the BIB can easily be said about the cast of BB15, who were all easily influenced by Pauline's hatred of Jale and Chris. Does that they mean they should be let off too?

Plus you say you judge housemates now rather than 9 years ago. Which is a bit silly considering Nikki 9 years ago is what made her what she is.

By that logic, Nikki doesn't have her hilarious meltdowns anymore. So I guess she isn't entertaining anymore.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Interestingly, Grace actually felt bad for Shahbaz during the clothes-stealing thing and wanted to get him a towel (while Nikki was having the time of her life), but she's remembered as one of BB's all-time bitches and Nikki is remembered as BB's princess.

I'm not saying Nikki is worse than Grace or evil incarnate or anything like that before someone jumps on that, just that there are little moments like that which put these housemates more into shades of grey rather than the stereotypical ways they've been remembered throughout the years.

tbh I think Nikki is known as a princess because of being high maintenance and her tantrums and demands. but that's just me

[Denver]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

How does any of that excuse Helen?

Please show me where I have said this excuses Helen?

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by BB6

Weak argument.
Being immature does not justify someones transphobic comments.
She was 24, not 4.

Plus the BIB can easily be said about the cast of BB15, who were all easily influenced by Pauline's hatred of Jale and Chris. Does that they mean they should be let off too?

Plus you say you judge housemates now rather than 9 years ago. Which is a bit silly considering Nikki 9 years ago is what made her what she is.

By that logic, Nikki doesn't have her hilarious meltdowns anymore. So I guess she isn't entertaining anymore.

It's not a weak argument imo, I'm not defending what she did, it's no rocket science she was influenced by others even the housemates have said it.But the past is the past people change all the time. Everyone changes throughout the years, you are not the same person all the time.

[Jase.]

[Denver]

Originally Posted by Ja$e

If your not going to contribute then please do not come on this thread to mock members who don't share your opinion

[ThriceShy]

Originally Posted by adamski94

Please show me where I have said this excuses Helen?

So you agree that Helen is a bully with no excuses. Why support her then?

[Denver]

Originally Posted by ThriceShy

So you agree that Helen is a bully with no excuses. Why support her then?

Helen is not a bully but yes she does say out of order things that I don't agree with

[Jack_]

The entire house with the exception of Pete bullied Shahbaz and it was disgusting. Yes Nikki played a part in that and her comments certainly shine a negative light on her whenever I think about it but it was 9 years ago, let's not hold it against her. Helen bullied Brian two nights ago.

Also Nikki is clearly a nice person deep down.