[Liam-]

Originally Posted by LukeB

It's no where near as bad as what Helen said imo, saying you look like muderer is hell of a lot worse

There's a progamme on tv called 'Born evil' and it features the likes of murderers, rapists, serial killers, pedophiles and so on, it doesn't feature gob****es from reality tv shows.

I don't think the word 'evil' should even be used for the majority of people on reality shows anyway, it's so extreme and should only be used against people who truly deserve it.

So imo, saying someone was 'born evil' is equal to, if not worse, that saying someone looks like a murderer, I'm not excusing Helen's words in any way shape or form either before people try and jump on me again like they did last night, but I'm seeing things from both sides and Nikki's words had just as much meaning and depth as Helen's.

[LukeB]

Originally Posted by Liam-

There's a progamme on tv called 'Born evil' and it features the likes of murderers, rapists, serial killers, pedophiles and so on, it doesn't feature gob****es from reality tv shows.

I don't think the word 'evil' should even be used for the majority of people on reality shows anyway, it's so extreme and should only be used against people who truly deserve it.

So imo, saying someone was 'born evil' is equal to, if not worse, that saying someone looks like a murderer, I'm not excusing Helen's words in any way shape or form either before people try and jump on me again like they did last night, but I'm seeing things from both sides and Nikki's words had just as much meaning and depth as Helen's.

Nikki didn't mean it in that context tho and it's based on how she acts but Helen is basing her commets on appearance like she always does. Nikki's comments are not that vile compared to Helen's