[cfromhx02]

I don't think anyone can really be classified as a Real Man,and Certainly Not A Hard Man or be classified as a real Woman unless they are grown up enough to admit to their problems and face them head on,

which both Marc and Helen are scared stiff too,and think maybe Nick is too

and grown up enough to admit when they are in the wrong.

That Marc and Helen can never admit they are in the wrong and that Nick often avoids admitting he is in the wrong which is pathetic from them all shows they are not really mature and until they admit these things never will be.

A real man or woman admits to their faults quickly,because they are brave enough to face their own faults and brave enough to admit to them publicly and will try to sort out any probs which come from them as quickly as they can.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Out of everyone in the show Marc is the one who can admit he's wrong the most.

If you want to see someone who can't admit they're wrong, look no further than that cretin Brian Belo. He lied constantly about Marc and when asked for proof couldn't provide any. Then he scaled a wall and cried to the press. Scum.

[Niamh.]

Nick is only just turned 20, not much more than a teenager so he's got plenty of life lessons to learn yet so you never know

[Vicky.]

Where on earth has this one come from? Marc specifically did say he was wrong last night on the show

Helen, I agree with. She does appear to have a problem admitting when she is in the wrong and I am convinced her now saying she was wrong to say 'murder/rapist' is just damage control.

Nick will never grow as a person while people treat him like a kid that needs protecting. Good god, the slightest criticism his way and the white knights charge in...its really quite pathetic

Danny is the worst for not admitting when he is in the wrong, IMO. Couldn't even accept he was wrong for getting all aggressive the other day. Mind the others all indulge his fantasy that he is perfect too

[Griffin5779]

marc has said he annoys people many times..helen knows she is a bitch and speaks before talking

just another excuse to attack the 2 for issues that don't even apply to then..

in my opinion people who are so obsessed and irrational that that they find it necessary to continuous blame them for human right violations are the ones who need to admit they have a problem.

post could at least say "in my opinion" instead of stating things as if they are universal truths.

in my opinion...danny, cristan and jack have far far less self awareness then those two ... even nick seems aware he is a spineless toad (in my opinion)

[DemolitionRed]

Marc admits to being wrong when it benefits him. I don't dislike Marc but he's got to be the most manipulative game player I have ever seen on BB...Katie Hopkins comes a close second. He is an utter control freak and he understands exactly what he's doing and when to do it. I would put my money on Marc winning simply because he holds so many puppet strings, including his audience.

Danny behaves like a chimp out of control. Danny can see what Marc is doing but doesn't have the intelligence to deal with him. I think Danny has good morals and that he's hugely frustrated but like I said, he's out of control and so irritating to watch. If Danny had to admit to doing anything wrong it would have to be about not being able to control the chimp.

Nick is just an unassertive lad. If you put Nick at a crossroads and told him to choose the right path, he would sit down and give up. He does own up to his mistakes, though he's not really sure what he's owning up to.

Helen only admitted to her mistake after public wrath. Of course Helen isn't sorry about what she said to Brian, she's just sorry it was filmed and aired. Both Helen and Marc missed out on the empathy part of the brain which can be quite useful if you're going to go on a show like BB.

[Ashley.]

I think everyone should admit their problems. But then people would complain because there'd be no drama that way.

[Tarryn]

Originally Posted by Niamh.

Nick is only just turned 20, not much more than a teenager so he's got plenty of life lessons to learn yet so you never know

I keep forgetting Nick is so young.
He seems mid-thirties to me

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by cfromhx02

I don't think anyone can really be classified as a Real Man,and Certainly Not A Hard Man or be classified as a real Woman unless they are grown up enough to admit to their problems and face them head on,

which both Marc and Helen are scared stiff too,and think maybe Nick is too

and grown up enough to admit when they are in the wrong.

That Marc and Helen can never admit they are in the wrong and that Nick often avoids admitting he is in the wrong which is pathetic from them all shows they are not really mature and until they admit these things never will be.

A real man or woman admits to their faults quickly,because they are brave enough to face their own faults and brave enough to admit to them publicly and will try to sort out any probs which come from them as quickly as they can.

I don't think you get to define what's regarded as grown up. Allowing Marc and Helen to be treated as spoiled kids sounds like excusing their behavior, they should own up to crap they do.

As for Nick, I'm not sure why you think he's not aware of his problems. From early on he was more judgy with himself than he was with anyone else. He even admitted that. And despite admitting his problems, I don't think he'll ever change them, he has no reason to.

[mimosveta]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

Out of everyone in the show Marc is the one who can admit he's wrong the most.

Yeah, he's like one of those guys who hit someone and say "sorry I hit you" then hit'em again and say "sorry" again, only to hit 'em again.

His apologies are worthless, he clearly doesn't mean it, and he only says it to calm down tptb, while continuing to poke

He can't admit he bullied Brian, cause Brian's gone now, and he doesn't have to. He's nasty. So nasty.

[parmnion]

I think helens already missed that boat.

[ItWasJustBanter]

Originally Posted by mimosveta

Yeah, he's like one of those guys who hit someone and say "sorry I hit you" then hit'em again and say "sorry" again, only to hit 'em again.

His apologies are worthless, he clearly doesn't mean it, and he only says it to calm down tptb, while continuing to poke

He can't admit he bullied Brian, cause Brian's gone now, and he doesn't have to. He's nasty. So nasty.

How did he bully Brian? By asking him to tell the truth instead of continually lying?

Scumbag Brian is the problem here.

[BB4fan]

Originally Posted by ItWasJustBanter

Out of everyone in the show Marc is the one who can admit he's wrong the most.

If you want to see someone who can't admit they're wrong, look no further than that cretin Brian Belo. He lied constantly about Marc and when asked for proof couldn't provide any. Then he scaled a wall and cried to the press. Scum.

You're absolutely right and both Marc and Helen have owned up to things, but Brian Bellend is yet to admit that his rotten temper was way over the top in that house.

Let's not forget hoe Nikki took it upon herself to targer Jack all by herself and tease him about his twitter followers then let the others take the blame for something that they weren't even in on. Those two are the villains with the fans personas.