[M X]

Originally Posted by RichardG

Marsh is right, I don't see what the problem is here. It doesn't matter what colour the envelopes are, the housemates opened them and read their amounts before BB announced the twist. So, even if all envelopes were the same colour, BB still had enough time to look at the amounts each read about and THEN decide to alter the question they would ask - that is if you believe the conspiracy theory anyway, which I don't. Emma had been saying all night the twist would leave one hm "without any money" or w/e. It would've looked well odd if they changed the twist last minute to being one of GIVING a housemate money instead.

You've just contradicted yourself.

The whole point that we are making is that they could change the question based on what colour they picked. It literally makes no difference that the envelopes had already been opened when the twist was read into the house.

Nobody is saying that they would have changed it into giving a housemate money instead.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by M X

You've just contradicted yourself.

The whole point that we are making is that they could change the question based on what colour they picked. It literally makes no difference that the envelopes had already been opened when the twist was read into the house.

Nobody is saying that they would have changed it into giving a housemate money instead.

How did I contradict myself??

Whatever people think the alternative questions or scenarios are that they could've asked doesn't matter, I was just assuming there that people thought the alternative scenario would be that they would 'give' money to their favourites rather than 'evict' their least favourite based on the post I just read beforehand by camertone above, not the point I was making.

I still don't see what the problem is though?? Unless I'm delirious from being awake at 3am and totally missing the point of the thread, people seem to be suggesting that the fact the envelopes were three different colours means the producers knew what amount was in each one, and so they could alter the question they ask accordingly depending on which housemate picks up which one to suit their needs based on who they want evicted.

However, they still only asked the question after they opened up the envelopes, so even if all three envelopes were the same colours, the producers had time to see what amount each housemate picked up when they opened them up and read them out, and then they could still alter the question accordingly just as they would have done earlier if the colours were different. The only difference is that they have to wait an extra 30 seconds to see who picked what and therefore have a tiny bit less time to check their list of questions to see which is most appropriate, but I can't see how that would be a significant problem cause they could only have a maximum of two anyway.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by RichardG

How did I contradict myself??

Whatever people think the alternative questions or scenarios are that they could've asked doesn't matter, I was just assuming there that people thought they would 'give' money to their favourites, not the point I was making. I still don't see what the problem is though?? Unless I'm delirious from being awake at 3am and totally missing the point of the thread, people seem to be suggesting that the fact the envelopes were three different colours means the producers knew what amount was in each one, and so they could alter the question they ask accordingly depending on which housemate picks up which one to suit their needs based on who they want evicted.

However, they still only asked the question after they opened up the envelopes, so even if all three envelopes were the same colours, the producers had time to see what amount each housemate picked up, and then alter the question accordingly just as they would have done earlier if the colours were the same. The only difference is that they have to wait an extra 30 seconds to see who picked what and therefore have a tiny bit less time to check their list of questions to see which is most appropriate, but I can't see how that would be a significant problem cause they could only have a maximum of three anyway.

It's nice to have someone else who can process what I've tried to say in the thread.

*high five*

[M X]

Originally Posted by RichardG

How did I contradict myself??

Whatever people think the alternative questions or scenarios are that they could've asked doesn't matter, I was just assuming there that people thought the alternative scenario would be that they would 'give' money to their favourites rather than 'evict' their least favourite based on the post I just read beforehand by camertone above, not the point I was making.

I still don't see what the problem is though?? Unless I'm delirious from being awake at 3am and totally missing the point of the thread, people seem to be suggesting that the fact the envelopes were three different colours means the producers knew what amount was in each one, and so they could alter the question they ask accordingly depending on which housemate picks up which one to suit their needs based on who they want evicted.

However, they still only asked the question after they opened up the envelopes, so even if all three envelopes were the same colours, the producers had time to see what amount each housemate picked up when they opened them up and read them out, and then they could still alter the question accordingly just as they would have done earlier if the colours were different. The only difference is that they have to wait an extra 30 seconds to see who picked what and therefore have a tiny bit less time to check their list of questions to see which is most appropriate, but I can't see how that would be a significant problem cause they could only have a maximum of two anyway.

Your contradiction is that in your explanation of your theory you prove the original point that was made in this thread. By having different colours and knowing which value was inside each envelope, they could change their question no matter which envelope each respective housemate chose.

Yes, they asked them the question after they opened the envelope but that means that they still had the time to literally pick one of two or three questions based on which housemate had which.

I guess in layman's terms our disagreement really comes down to the timing of it all.

[RichardG]

Originally Posted by M X

Your contradiction is that in your explanation of your theory you prove the original point that was made in this thread. By having different colours and knowing which value was inside each envelope, they could change their question no matter which envelope each respective housemate chose.

Yes, they asked them the question after they opened the envelope but that means that they still had the time to literally pick one of two or three questions based on which housemate had which.

I guess in layman's terms our disagreement really comes down to the timing of it all.

I totally understand the point about timing, they had maybe a minute to pick which question to ask with colours rather than say 30 seconds without colours, but when there's only a couple of questions available to them based on a very limited set of possible outcomes i'd like to think that wouldn't be much of an issue if they really were so adamant to fix/manipulate. Without colours they'd still know after the second had been opened what amount the third hm would have so between watching Sam open the final one and then waiting a little longer to ask the question, that's still a fair amount of time to pick which question when it's a very simple situation to analyse. If they had prepared the twist at all then this shouldn't be a problem, they could still very easily change the question based on which envelopes were picked up if they were all the same colour by the time Jack opened the second one.

Then again they've proved time and time again that they're not very clever through the mess they've made of this season so it's not impossible to believe that they really do need a full minute to get their head around the situation.