[lostalex]

The entire ideology of Islam is a lie. Tell the truth, that the religion is a lie, problem solved.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The entire ideology of Islam is a lie. Tell the truth, that the religion is a lie, problem solved.

No there are Muslims that are Not Extreme
they are now helping our PM

[lostalex]

Originally Posted by arista

No there are Muslims that are Not Extreme
they are now helping our PM

but the ones that do bad do it because they think it is right. Islam tells them that it is right. so we need to tell them the truth, that it is not right. it is a lie.

Don't ban books, don't treat people badly. but the Quran should be treated the same as Mein Kampf. A book full of very dangerous lies.

[arista]

Originally Posted by lostalex

but the ones that do bad do it because they think it is right. Islam tells them that it is right. so we need to tell them the truth, that it is not right. it is a lie.

Don't ban books, don't treat people badly. but the Quran should be treated the same as Mein Kampf. A book full of very dangerous lies.

No we are Stuck with that

Its their Bible
etc.

[Good King Glennceslas]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The entire ideology of Islam is a lie. Tell the truth, that the religion is a lie, problem solved.

There is logic here

[Christmas Dynasnow]

Originally Posted by lostalex

The entire ideology of Islam is a lie. Tell the truth, that the religion is a lie, problem solved.

Indeed. We need to start with OUR leaders telling people that all religions are lies, there are no gods and stop the rot at school level.

By Cameron pretending to be a Christian and Obama we just perpetuate the problem.

The Elephant with the bomb jacket in the room is religion.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed. We need to start with OUR leaders telling people that all religions are lies, there are no gods and stop the rot at school level.

By Cameron pretending to be a Christian and Obama we just perpetuate the problem.

The Elephant with the bomb jacket in the room is religion.

Whilst I agree on principle, in practice it's probably a pretty bad idea. For some unfathomable reason, there are a lot of religious people of various description in the world, and they tend not to take kindly to anyone pointing out how improbable their beliefs are.

You can't stop it "at school level" because these tales are passed on through families and have little to do with the education system. I know loads of kids of mostly non-religious parents who went to Catholic school and only came out even more sure that it's nonsense. I also know people from some bat**** crazy religious backgrounds (one girl from a branch of Christianity with < 100 members, founded by her own great grandfather... srsly) who went through an almost entirely non-religious school system and still "believes" to this day.

To be honest I don't know how you stop it. Parents teach it to their kids, who teach it to their kids, and so on and so forth and once someone believes in these things, it's pretty much impossible to turn them away from it.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Indeed. We need to start with OUR leaders telling people that all religions are lies, there are no gods and stop the rot at school level.

By Cameron pretending to be a Christian and Obama we just perpetuate the problem.

The Elephant with the bomb jacket in the room is religion.

no. Its islam and the perversion of Islam that is the problem. To blame other religions for the Craziness at the heart of lslam is insane. The values of Christianity are infinitely superior to those of islam. That's my moral choice and thats what I believe. Christianity has been the bed rock of our laws and culture in the west for centuries and the good outweighs the bad. However religion is rightly kept separate from politics. When a phoney pair of psychos on our side like bush and blair choose to quote Christian text to justify their illegal wars, its up to us the public to call them out on it. Do you recall Jesus telling us to bomb millions of innocents? nope. so why blame jesus?