[Kizzy]

The propaganda begins...

Youtube video

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

The propaganda begins...

Some may view it as propaganda, others view it as being informative. This man could be the next prime minister, if his views do affect our security in the world then it is important that people know about it. This isn't a one directional dialog, Corbyn can easily explain himself and clarify anything that he wants. Surely its in everyone's interests that there will be no surprises if he did become prime minister.

[joeysteele]

Originally Posted by the truth

what a joke it doesn't represent anything? its a song about 1 person on throne, its embarassing

I agree actually.

It is not a song about the Nation at all, it rarely gets sung past the first verse anyway,(thank all powers that be for that too), and all it goes on about is seeing the highly privileged individual who happenes to be the Monarch, ''victorious, happy and glorious,long to reign over us''.
For goodness sake that is ridiculous.

The very first word of it,God, sadly I think, means very little to a great number now across the Nations of the UK too.

It is awful, really awful and although I will sing it sometimes, most times I just hum the tune,since I actually find this personalised further glorification in song of one person nauseating at best.
To actually term it a National anthem, is beyond belief in this day and age in the UK now,with the make up of all the citizens of the UK too.

Get rid I say and no one should have to sing it if they do not want to.
I'd have rather hummmed along to something like the Dambusters at this event than this depressing anthem.

[user104658]

Indeed, a national anthem should be rousing for the country... ALL of the people. Not glorification of one. If the same song was the NK national anthem with "Jong il" in place of "the queen" we would all find it hilarious.

For example, I actually think the Star Spangled Banner is an excellent national anthem. If it was actually still accurate for what America stands for, it would be even better. Hope, freedom, bravery... For normal people.

Unfortunately it doesn't really fit with the US as it exists today. Still a much better anthem, though.

[the truth]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Indeed, a national anthem should be rousing for the country... ALL of the people. Not glorification of one. If the same song was the NK national anthem with "Jong il" in place of "the queen" we would all find it hilarious.

For example, I actually think the Star Spangled Banner is an excellent national anthem. If it was actually still accurate for what America stands for, it would be even better. Hope, freedom, bravery... For normal people.

Unfortunately it doesn't really fit with the US as it exists today. Still a much better anthem, though.

agreed we look just as moronic as the koreans worshipper the greedy boy king

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

Some may view it as propaganda, others view it as being informative. This man could be the next prime minister, if his views do affect our security in the world then it is important that people know about it. This isn't a one directional dialog, Corbyn can easily explain himself and clarify anything that he wants. Surely its in everyone's interests that there will be no surprises if he did become prime minister.

Why should he have to do that? if you want to know what he said educate yourself, don't be spoon fed spin :/

[JoshBB]

This video.. wow.. talk about cutting quotes out and misinterpreting them

[bots]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Why should he have to do that? if you want to know what he said educate yourself, don't be spoon fed spin :/

With respect - Rubbish .... Corbyn has to prove to the UK people that he is fit to be the Prime Minister of the UK

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by bitontheslide

With respect - Rubbish .... Corbyn has to prove to the UK people that he is fit to be the Prime Minister of the UK

His speeches and interviews are all there to be listened to if anyone wanted to analyse them for themselves... Because a couple of sentences have been taken out of context, deliberately misconstrued or misquoted why would he be held accountable for that?

[arista]

Why is thread still going?

He has said he will sing it next time

[Kizzy]

I'm annoyed he's said he will tbh :/

[arista]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

I'm annoyed he's said he will tbh :/

As a Leader
its fair enough


That Concludes this thread

[Kizzy]

'I am a patriot – an immensely proud father of two sons. Both my boys served in the British army, and my eldest, Tom, made the ultimate sacrifice serving our country in Iraq. So I have a strong view on Jeremy Corbyn and patriotism.

Corbyn has found himself at the blunt end of a lot of criticism in the media for his supposed lack of patriotism for not singing along with gusto to the national anthem during a memorial service to mark the Battle of Britain at St Paul’s Cathedral earlier this week. Battle of Britain veterans were quoted as saying the Labour leader’s “lack of respect” was astonishing.

But I think those who criticise Corbyn should look more deeply at his record. Surely a true patriot is not just a person who follows the laid-out rituals, but one who defends the honour of his country at all levels with pride and vigour. A true patriot would not mislead or deceive his fellow countrymen or put them in harm’s way with no good reason. A patriot would wish to see his country held in high esteem on the world stage with other UN nations firmly in support. This is the man we know Jeremy Corbyn is, from all his words and deeds.'

http://www.theguardian.com/commentis...ir-iraq-labour

[JoshBB]

Very interesting article Kizzy, thank you for sharing