[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

How did they scrape such rights over time?

And I for one, am not a 'stupid scared sheep', just because I am aware of the very real threat terrorist pose.

Name me ONE single country where the plague that is Islamic Extremism has been ALLOWED to become dominant which has now a more ordered, civilised, safe, liberal way of life.

The alarmist, hysterical 'Orwellian' protests from the Extremist Left Wing - yes Left Wing - are pure B.S and may NEVER happen and the only dystopian future DEFINITELY awaiting the UK if we are NOT vigilant, is that which other once relatively free countries now suffer at the hands of Islamic Extremist terrorists whose very imnhuman yoke they are now so unfortunately under.

You're one of the most fearful people I've ever encountered, kirk.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

You're one of the most fearful people I've ever encountered, kirk.

Then you do not know me T.S. Concern and Awareness are totally different from Fear and Hysteria.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

Then you do not know me T.S. Concern and Awareness are totally different from Fear and Hysteria.

Yes they are. And if it's not how you are, then you're not coming across as you intend. For example, you and Livia share many views on many things. Livia comes across as concerned and aware - you come across as scared, and angry because you are scared.

[kirklancaster]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Yes they are. And if it's not how you are, then you're not coming across as you intend. For example, you and Livia share many views on many things. Livia comes across as concerned and aware - you come across as scared, and angry because you are scared.

If that's your diagnosis, then based upon the logic of most of your posts T.S (not ALL of them, as some ARE intelligent and valid) then I am most certainly pleased with myself.

[user104658]

Originally Posted by kirklancaster

If that's your diagnosis, then based upon the logic of most of your posts T.S (not ALL of them, as some ARE intelligent and valid) then I am most certainly pleased with myself.

I'm just saying kirk, that even the good points that you do have come with so much of this sort of "hulk smash" method that they get buried in the rubble.

In an emotionally detached, do-my-best-to-perch-on-fence discussion I actually can appreciate that there are problems with immigration, that there is a good argument for bunkering down in the UK and keeping me and mine safe and happy for as long as possible. That the current situation in Germany is frankly insane. I see people posting their "all welcome" signs on facebook and think, "no questions asked? Isn't that a little naive?". I've seen points made that I can get on board with but they're stated so abrasively that it's impossible to get to the core of them... Like I've said before, you sometimes come across as wild to the point of being unhinged, and that makes the WHOLE argument questionable. "I find the increase in Islam in the UK concerning, and I worry about where Jeremy Corbyn's policies and associations might lead" vs "ARGH MUSLIMS WITH BOMBS AND THEY BOUGHT THE INGREDIENTS FROM A CORNER STORE RUN BY CORBYN THE CLOSET ARAB!!"... To exaggerate again.

I'm not preaching - I can admit that I have a tendency to hyperbolise too - though more from a place of melancholy... But I am fully aware that that's not a great way to make a point either.

Something to consider, I suppose.